From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 8 16:15:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC63416A407 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=06eb48df11d328c7e1f146f80354f22b680f976b=209=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from postal4.es.net (postal4.es.net [198.124.252.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994CC13C428 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=06eb48df11d328c7e1f146f80354f22b680f976b=209=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal4.es.net (Postal Node 4) with ESMTP (SSL) id NRK95839; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:02:39 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id DF27E45054; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:02:38 -0800 (PST) To: Andrei Kolu In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jan 2007 12:29:23 +0200." <200701081229.24779.antik@bsd.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1168272158_1050P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:02:38 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20070108160238.DF27E45054@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make buildworld is always braking at various points X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:15:41 -0000 --==_Exmh_1168272158_1050P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > From: Andrei Kolu > Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:29:23 +0200 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > On Sunday, 7. January 2007 20:08, Peter Jeremy wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-Jan-07 17:44:24 +0100, Christoph Illnar wrote: > > >I keep having troubles compiling either 6.1-RELEASE and 6.2-RC2. > > >I downloaded sources, extracted them with install.sh and did a cvsup. > > > > > >My installed system is 6.1-RELEASE and I keep trying to compile it on my > > >own. > > > > Is the failure consistent? I suspect you may have bad RAM. > > > > >===> lib/libpthread (all) > > > > [.......... lines suppressed ......] > > > >make: don't know how to make > > >/usr/src.lib/libpthread/arch/i386/include/pthread_md.h. Stop > > >*** Error code 2 > > > > Note that: > > 1) "/usr/src.lib/" does not normally exist; > > 2) "." and "/" differ by 1 bit; > > 3) The cc line shows "-I/usr/src/lib/libpthread/arch/i386/include"; > > 4) Compiling thr_condattr_init.c uses the same #include sequence to > > successfully load "pthread_md.h"; > > 5) None of the test build boxes are reporting any problems. > > > > Please try running a memory test, or swapping your RAM. > I got similar problem with "faulty" PSU- Chieftec 410W. Memtest accepted RAM > sticks- not a single error within 24h but when I started writing something > onto raid then system rebooted randomly with various error messages. Changed > PSU and all problems was gone. Same Chieftec 410W PSU works fine with other > box. This error is almost always attributed to RAM problems, for good reason. That does not mean that RAM is the only source, though. Almost any hardware issue can cause the problem. The power supply has been a common source of problems in electronics since before most people on this list were born (and probably before their parents were born) and remains commonly overlooked when trouble shooting. Another source can be temperature. I have an AMD K6-450 system which ran solidly for a long time except for buildworld. Tested all of the RAM and even swapped it out. Swapped out the power supply as well. The faults while building word persisted. I then tried monitoring the temperature of the CPU and that was the problem. A better heat sink, properly installed with a THIN layer of heat-sink grease fixed the problem. The reality is that this error can be caused by almost any problem in the mother board or power supply and may be the result of interaction of components. This can make trouble shooting very tedious. I don't even want to think of the issues of finding a problem caused by a poor solder joint. :-( -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1168272158_1050P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFFomsekn3rs5h7N1ERAljlAJoD9lHTPxVwPBU0z1inq0kM3eKHxQCfUUV1 deEFbPYkesTFywwAl6ZSqeE= =doSv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1168272158_1050P--