From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 1 20:26:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20424 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:26:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (jonny@roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20379; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 20:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01130; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:25:17 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199807020325.AAA01130@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: windows 98 In-Reply-To: <199807020225.TAA02055@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Jul 1, 98 07:25:16 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 00:25:17 -0300 (EST) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com, mjh@east.isi.edu, tinguely@plains.nodak.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(Amancio Hasty) // I see however what we are asking to have the multimedia mailing list // accept mail *only* from members. Can you do that? IIRC, this was not exactly the initial suggestion. // > Amancio Hasty wrote: // > > > i expect. how was gonna mail in the diffs to majordomo-1.94.4? // > > // > > Do you mean that majordomo-1.94.4 doesn't have policies on a per mailing list // > > basis? // > > // > > Because if that is the case , I am willing to take a look at majordomo // > > this weekend. // > // > some policies yes, but we often hear of suggestions for // > policies that majordomo does not support. storing mail // > and then releasing it later if resent is not one that // > is supported "out of the box". as far as i know. Not storing it, but caching the user (something that formail, from the procmail package, may do for you) and allowing the user to send the message 1) if he is subscribed to the list (this one may need a bit of majordomo hacking, sending rejected mail to another address, instead of back to the sender), OR 2) he is trying to send a message again (this one based on Sender: or From: field caching). I'm not very attracted to this setup, since my experience with "closed" lists is bad for me, since I like to send mail from very different email addresses depending on where I'm sitting at that moment. :) But I must agree that it solves those two problems cited: 1) People lost from mommy M$ home, and 2) spammers from hell. The sender cache should be per-list, since spammers will send messages to every list, and if it gets cached on the first, the following ones will be allowed to him. The message sent back should explain what FreeBSD is, what are the objectives of that list, and that the user could send his message again if it satisfies those objectives. The formail caches can only be set by size, and not by time, so it may require some tuning from time to time. I've done some playing with procmail as a filter in distributed lists before. We had a "global" list for local users, and wanted to allow anybody inside the campus to send mail to it, even if the sender is not subscribed in the list, but also wanted to disallow everybody outside the campus to send mail to the list, and send back a message explaining why. This saved us from a lot of external spamming since. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message