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Date:      Mon, 24 Apr 2017 08:18:08 +0000
From:      bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org
To:        python@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   [Bug 217044] devel/py-setuptools: Upgrade to 34.1.1
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Kubilay Kocak <koobs@FreeBSD.org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Blocks|                            |216953

--- Comment #16 from Kubilay Kocak <koobs@FreeBSD.org> ---
For what it's worth, and albeit belatedly, I'm strongly -1 on using ensurep=
ip
to boostrap instead of the setuptools/pip ports for the same and additional
reasons as John someone captures in comment 3 and comment 3. Namely:=20

- static versions
- per python port (currently 4, but at best 3 (the number of concurrently
supported upstream bugfix branches at any one time)
- that receive no bugfixes (unless we backport them) and
- unless they are manually hacked/updated in the pythonXY ports by ourselves

Instead I would have the pythonXY ports depend on the setuptools/pip ports =
so
that they are guaranteed to be provided in a new installation (as PEP453 [1]
recommends):

"Ensure that whenever Python is installed pip is either installed or is
otherwise made readily available to end users. "

It appears that the only requirement here is that setuptools/pip is guarant=
eed
to be available for the framework (USES=3Dwheel or otherwise) to use. There=
 is no
apparent or explicitly mentioned requirement for that to happen via the
private/vendored setuptools/pip (ensurepip) module.

Further, having the framework utilise one version of setuptools/pip and oth=
er
parts of a users environment (site-packages and/or virtual environments)
potentially or actually use another is a major issue.=20

Addressing that issue by manually upgrading private/vendored copies of
pip/setuptools in lang/pythonXY ports with patches or framework in-place
upgrades is also likely to cause issues.

It also means multiple (one per python port) combinations of setuptools/pip=
 to
maintain, bug check, test and upgrade than one.

Finally, setuptools/pip (the upstream separate PyPI packages) are intended =
to
support all currently supported Python branches at once within the same
version, and breakages are considered bugs/regressions. We should leverage =
that
level of support by using them.

[1] https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0453/


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D216953
[Bug 216953] devel/py-setuptools: egg_info fails under python 3.4.6 on
nonexistent MANIFEST graft
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