From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 03:15:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410D6106564A for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F388FC0C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8I3EtGi026299; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:14:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q8I3EtNN026296; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:14:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:14:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <20567.50041.903201.979498@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Message-ID: References: <780066C6E2FAB67A997876B7@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20567.50041.903201.979498@jerusalem.litteratus.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:14:56 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Paul Schmehl , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What replaces csup? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:15:03 -0000 On Mon, 17 Sep 2012, Robert Huff wrote: > > Paul Schmehl writes: > >> Does csup use subversion now? Or do we need to use something >> else to fetch source? > > As I understand it, for the average user c(vs)up and subversion > serve the same function using different methods (both in terms of > identifying what files need to be fetched and actually fetching > them). At this level of discussion they are mutually exclusive. > I have switched from csup to subversion for ports and docs. > After modest preparation it was essentially painless. The difference is that a local svn checkout has all the commit history. A comparison recently showed 700-some megabytes more space used by the svn checkout. csup updates just the files that have changed without all the overhead. svn export can get a copy of all the current files, but it copies all of them every time, not just the changes. An svnup program was under development, but I don't know the present status.