From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Jul 27 15:12:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22060 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tower.my.domain (nscs28p5.remote.umass.edu [128.119.179.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21967 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gp@philos.umass.edu) Received: from localhost (gp@localhost) by tower.my.domain (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA08588; Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:14:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gp@tower.my.domain) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:14:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Pavelcak X-Sender: gp@tower.my.domain To: Dag-Erling Coidan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= cc: "Jan B. Koum " , Dennis Reiter , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: QPopper exploit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id PAA22002 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 27 Jul 1998, Dag-Erling Coidan [iso-8859-1] Smørgrav wrote: > "Jan B. Koum " writes: > > Every computer which is somehow connected to any network (be it > > Internet or not) must have proper security in place. If you think you not > > going to get broken into for whatever reason .. guess what? Yes. > > You know that, and I know that, and I'm sure quite a few other readers > of this list know that. But you'd be amazed to know how many people > believe that crackers will overlook them just because they're on a > dialup. Me, for example. But the question is what constitutes "proper security" for a run-of-the-mill pc-user (well equipped with FreeBSD as his OS) who only goes on-line to fetch his mail and do a little surfing. > > If I were a cracker, the first thing I'd try would be to scan IP > ranges known to belong to large ISPs' dialup servers, precisely for > that reason (and also because there's a much higher chance of finding > machines run by inexperienced or careless people there than amongst > permanently connected hosts) Hmm, major universities for example? (He asks through his UMass PPP account.) > > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smørgrav - dag-erli@ifi.uio.no > Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message