From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Jun 19 10:49:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A7237B414; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5JHnCP8042063; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.4/8.12.3/Submit) id g5JHnCPW042062; Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:49:12 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: Doug Barton , "Jin Guojun[DSD]" , "Crist J. Clark" , FreeBSD-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: conf/39444: rc.sendmail syntax error: cannot disable sendmail Message-ID: <20020619104912.B41546@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <3D0FB406.83DE356D@lbl.gov> <20020618155900.O2483-100000@master.gorean.org> <15632.6996.519381.823439@horsey.gshapiro.net> <3D102055.F08DD2AE@FreeBSD.org> <15632.9131.365021.260177@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15632.9131.365021.260177@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 11:24:43PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 11:24:43PM -0700, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > DougB> The problem is, the users are getting confused. Neither of the methods > DougB> you describe is "standard," which is a big part of the confusion. > > I guess the standard way would be: > > sendmail_enable=NO > sendmail_submit_enable=NO > sendmail_outbound_enable=NO > sendmail_msp_queue_enable=NO Yes. Since you fully support this, I don't understand what the issue is. People have old configurations that want "sendmail_enable=NO" to equal the above? Too bad, there are many configuration changes to learn when going from -stable to -current. So they will just have to learn there is more granularity now. > This is (and was) always available. sendmail_enable=NONE is just a > shortcut that has the same effect as setting all four to NO. This is non-standard. In fact I would really like us to use the NetBSD way of testing the knobs such that any "negative" setting means no. "NONE" would break with this. Thus my voiced support is "do nothing" (other than maybe remove the NONE support). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message