From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 14:33:05 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D60810656A4 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [115.70.110.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5FE8FC18 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id oAFEWv49034576; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:32:57 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:32:56 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20101115111955.438801065754@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20101116004143.D39988@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20101115111955.438801065754@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:33:05 -0000 In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 337, Issue 1, Message: 19 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:29:10 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:39:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my "muuz" game/mind-machine > > effort. It was over 10K line of C-ish code that I rehacked into > > C++. Figured since C++ was "_the_ new language" that it was a > > good move. Then I realized how you could spend a lifetime > > learning C++ I backed off and kept it simple. Deftly avoiding the whirlpool. Delphi was the similar suck from Pascal. > Hardly new. It hasn't been the Next Big Thing since the '80s. Java was > the Next Big Thing in the '90s. We don't exactly have a new Next Big > Thing for the '00s, from what I can see -- and maybe that's a good thing. > > Agile development is the Next Big Thing for development methodologies, > but that's a somewhat separate issue. Whatever that means, I'll take your word for it :) > > Yeah, it's on amazon.com, but "my bible" {seriously!} is good > > enough. Dog-earned and coffee-stained; but it's the same as the > > 2nd Ed. The 2nd is ANSI-ified, IIRC. > > That's correct -- 2nd Ed is the ANSI C version of basically the same > text. Hey, didn't know I had a rare '78 first ed; ANSI not even in the index. I confess to buying it secondhand in '94 from a likely sorry bloke, and wonder if anyone's published a diff (ono) to the 2nd ed? But my most dog-eared, tabbed and note-stuffed reference is Kernighan & Plauger's Software Tools in Pascal ('81) - lovely if only for quality of the writing and typesetting. Appropriate thread for a little heresy? :) cheers, Ian