From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 16:33:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B4F16A41F; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:33:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua (tigra.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01F343D4C; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:33:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from localhost (rocky.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.2]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA4GXG7q079380; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:33:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: from tigra.ip.net.ua ([82.193.96.10]) by localhost (rocky.ipnet [82.193.96.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 43078-02-4; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:33:14 +0200 (EET) Received: from heffalump.ip.net.ua (heffalump.ip.net.ua [82.193.96.213]) by tigra.ip.net.ua (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jA4GVu8O079303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:31:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru@ip.net.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by heffalump.ip.net.ua (8.13.4/8.13.4) id jA4GW1bt095490; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:32:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:32:00 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20051104163200.GZ63539@ip.net.ua> References: <20051104093436.GI29387@submonkey.net> <20051104105601.GV63539@ip.net.ua> <20051104120642.GL29387@submonkey.net> <20051104.091549.55832472.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZljC5FVPx7rxDQQ8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051104.091549.55832472.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ip.net.ua Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, ceri@submonkey.net, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/config configvers.h X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:33:29 -0000 --ZljC5FVPx7rxDQQ8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 09:15:49AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20051104120642.GL29387@submonkey.net> > Ceri Davies writes: > : On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 12:56:01PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > : > On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 09:34:36AM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > : > > On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 09:18:58AM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > : > > > On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 04:16:44AM +0000, Warner Losh wrote: > : > > > > imp 2005-11-04 04:16:44 UTC > : > > > >=20 > : > > > > FreeBSD src repository > : > > > >=20 > : > > > > Modified files: > : > > > > usr.sbin/config configvers.h=20 > : > > > > Log: > : > > > > since nocpu isn't used in the kernel config base, we don't ne= ed to > : > > > > bump the version. Peter Wemm, John Baldwin and I hammered th= is out > : > > > > after the last time I needlessly incremented the version. > : > > > > =20 > : > > > > Revision Changes Path > : > > > > 1.38 +1 -1 src/usr.sbin/config/configvers.h > : > > > >=20 > : > > > Our users wanted to *use* the "nocpu" directive in their configs > : > > > that are based on GENERIC (GENERIC is included), hence I bumped > : > > > config(8). Otherwise, one day some would scream that "nocpu" > : > > > doesn't work for them, because they're using the older version > : > > > of config(8). >=20 > I will agree that bumping the config version will force users to > install a new config. At the same time, a new config cannot be used > for old kernels, like the ones in 6.0. Since this is the only > incompatibility between 6.0 and current, it seemed a little > gratuitous. >=20 > There's no documentation about what features are in what versions of > config. If you don't bump the version, then we can MFC these changes > and users can use config in 6.x. A nit is that there's no nocpu in > config.5. >=20 > My position is that the inconvenience of having multiple versions of > config is worse than the minor confusion when nocpu doesn't work. >=20 > : > > I'd agree that the Makefiles don't need to be bumped, as they don't > : > > actually require the new config, but config has new functionality a= nd > : > > the version should probably be bumped in the binary. > : > >=20 > : > You cannot just bump it in one place, the version requirement doesn't > : > understand >=3D, only =3D. > :=20 > : Oh. Insert obvious next question here. :) > : What happens to those people who have already installed 600004 then? >=20 > They will need to install a new config if they want to build a new > kernel. Maybe it is time to change the versioning so that multiple > versions will work. >=20 This is all not needed if you're using an official upgrade method: buildworld/buildkernel, which will take care of updating config(8) for you. Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --ZljC5FVPx7rxDQQ8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFDa40AqRfpzJluFF4RAk8AAKCSFiXiU1fmKoc4UWH8Pi9r99/IqgCeK6qL oejSro3qMnPoJSPAg4OfyUw= =s3SG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZljC5FVPx7rxDQQ8--