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Date:      Thu, 30 Mar 2023 21:50:28 +0200
From:      "M. Mader" <mma@darktemple.ch>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Docker
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Isn't podman in the ports? That's docker, but open source=2E It also suppor=
ts containers without needing root=2E

Or ist that based on the linux emulation layer?


Am 29=2E M=C3=A4rz 2023 07:56:59 MESZ schrieb Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@so=
hara=2Eorg>:
>On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:40:36 +0000
>Hosney Osman <hosneybinosman@gmail=2Ecom> wrote:
>
>> great information for me is Jails and Bhyve alternative for Docker in
>> FreeBSD
>
>	This is not the case!
>
>	Jails are the FreeBSD equivalent of Linux containers (LXC)=2E
>
>	Byhve is the FreeBSD native hypervisor, it runs vms=2E
>
>	The nearest things to docker are managers like iocage, bastille and
>cbsd=2E None of them provide the layered images approach to composing tha=
t
>docker uses which has led to the massive library of images and the plug
>and play simplicity (which comes at the price of not understanding your
>servers)=2E They tend to use a package based approach to defining jails
>(which pretty much forces you to know all about your servers)=2E
>
>> are there any alternative for kubernetes also
>
>	No - there is nothing else like kubernetes and until recently it
>had a hard coded dependency on docker=2E That has now gone and a port of
>kubernetes to FreeBSD with support for jails as containers should be
>possible=2E The convenient plug and play distributed application componen=
t
>library is more difficult, but BastilleBSD may be a starting point (that
>would cast bastille into the role that docker plays on Linux for
>kubernetes)=2E
>
>--=20
>Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara=2Eorg>
>

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<html><head></head><body>Isn't podman in the ports? That's docker, but open=
 source=2E It also supports containers without needing root=2E<br><br>Or is=
t that based on the linux emulation layer?<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">Am 29=2E M=C3=A4rz 2023 07:56:59 MESZ schrieb Steve O'Hara-Smith &lt;=
steve@sohara=2Eorg&gt;:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0=
pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left=
: 1ex;">
<pre dir=3D"auto" class=3D"k9mail">On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:40:36 +0000<br>H=
osney Osman &lt;hosneybinosman@gmail=2Ecom&gt; wrote:<br><br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px =
solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">great information for me is Jails and Bh=
yve alternative for Docker in<br>FreeBSD<br></blockquote><br>	This is not t=
he case!<br><br>	Jails are the FreeBSD equivalent of Linux containers (LXC)=
=2E<br><br>	Byhve is the FreeBSD native hypervisor, it runs vms=2E<br><br>	=
The nearest things to docker are managers like iocage, bastille and<br>cbsd=
=2E None of them provide the layered images approach to composing that<br>d=
ocker uses which has led to the massive library of images and the plug<br>a=
nd play simplicity (which comes at the price of not understanding your<br>s=
ervers)=2E They tend to use a package based approach to defining jails<br>(=
which pretty much forces you to know all about your servers)=2E<br><br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-=
left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">are there any alternative for =
kubernetes also<br></blockquote><br>	No - there is nothing else like kubern=
etes and until recently it<br>had a hard coded dependency on docker=2E That=
 has now gone and a port of<br>kubernetes to FreeBSD with support for jails=
 as containers should be<br>possible=2E The convenient plug and play distri=
buted application component<br>library is more difficult, but BastilleBSD m=
ay be a starting point (that<br>would cast bastille into the role that dock=
er plays on Linux for<br>kubernetes)=2E<br><br></pre></blockquote></div></b=
ody></html>
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