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Date:      Tue, 9 Oct 2001 01:20:19 +0300 (EEST)
From:      Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>
To:        tlambert2@mindspring.com
Cc:        kris@obsecurity.org, nate@yogotech.com, lyndon@atg.aciworldwide.com, ticso@mail.cicely.de, chat@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: uucp @ sourceforge
Message-ID:  <200110082220.BAA60356@ipcard.iptcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <3BC1EBC2.11538589@mindspring.com>

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[moved to -chat, since it has nothing to do with -current]

On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:09:06 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> > > Sourceforge is based on the premise that you can create an
> > > Open Source project by declaring one, which is untrue.  If
> > > you want my opnions in detail, check the -chat and -advocacy
> > > archives.
> > 
> > I am not sure how this could defeat the fact that you can get a necessary
> > ftp/www/cvs/etc space easily.
> 
> It doesn't defeat that.
> 
> It only defeats the project living on after I am run over by
> a bus, since the project will be unable to attract outside
> participation if it is hosted at SourceForge.
> 
> You can't cookie-cutter Open Source projects, at least not the
> way they are trying to do it.

I am sure that number of people involved in successful projects
hosted at SF would be quite surprised hearing this. Personally
I can name dozen on such projects, and I'm sure that it if only
a fraction of the total number. It is not a magic bullet, granted,
but it isn't a devil's seed either.

Please don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to advocate SF, just
trying to point out that such a black&white view is oversimplistic
and things like SF have their own niche at current opensource
landscape. If you don't like it, well that's your right - host
elsewhere, but please don't try to substantiate your theories by
throwing away facts that don't support them.

> As I said before, you need to read my objections in the
> -current and -advocacy lists.

I'll take a look at them when I have a time.

> Realize that I have participated in the genesis of no less
> than 5 open source projects, 4 of which are still going.

Ok, I've realised. :)

-Maxim

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