From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Oct 8 15:22: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020FE37B409 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from notebook.vega.com (h236.228.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.228.236]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA60356; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 01:20:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 01:20:19 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <200110082220.BAA60356@ipcard.iptcom.net> To: tlambert2@mindspring.com Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, nate@yogotech.com, lyndon@atg.aciworldwide.com, ticso@mail.cicely.de, chat@FreeBSD.org From: Maxim Sobolev Subject: Re: uucp @ sourceforge X-Mailer: Pygmy (v0.5.11) In-Reply-To: <3BC1EBC2.11538589@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [moved to -chat, since it has nothing to do with -current] On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:09:06 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > Sourceforge is based on the premise that you can create an > > > Open Source project by declaring one, which is untrue. If > > > you want my opnions in detail, check the -chat and -advocacy > > > archives. > > > > I am not sure how this could defeat the fact that you can get a necessary > > ftp/www/cvs/etc space easily. > > It doesn't defeat that. > > It only defeats the project living on after I am run over by > a bus, since the project will be unable to attract outside > participation if it is hosted at SourceForge. > > You can't cookie-cutter Open Source projects, at least not the > way they are trying to do it. I am sure that number of people involved in successful projects hosted at SF would be quite surprised hearing this. Personally I can name dozen on such projects, and I'm sure that it if only a fraction of the total number. It is not a magic bullet, granted, but it isn't a devil's seed either. Please don't get me wrong - I'm not trying to advocate SF, just trying to point out that such a black&white view is oversimplistic and things like SF have their own niche at current opensource landscape. If you don't like it, well that's your right - host elsewhere, but please don't try to substantiate your theories by throwing away facts that don't support them. > As I said before, you need to read my objections in the > -current and -advocacy lists. I'll take a look at them when I have a time. > Realize that I have participated in the genesis of no less > than 5 open source projects, 4 of which are still going. Ok, I've realised. :) -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message