From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 27 7:47:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4C937B403 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA08813; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:46:45 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda08811; Mon Aug 27 07:46:39 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.6/8.9.1) id f7REkce81312; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UNKNOWN(10.1.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdC81070; Mon Aug 27 07:46:19 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.6/8.9.1) id f7REkJF19764; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108271446.f7REkJF19764@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdk19754; Mon Aug 27 07:46:03 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Chris Dillon Cc: Warner Losh , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SOLVED - Re: AAARGH. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 19 Aug 2001 15:19:16 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 07:46:03 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Ch ris Dillon writes: > On Sat, 18 Aug 2001, Chris Dillon wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Chris Dillon wrote: > > > > > Sh~t. Now I'm seeing a hang, but its hanging even on a > > > pre-interrupt-routing kernel I kept. Its completing the boot, and > > > getting all the way to a login prompt, but it hangs solid just a > > > few seconds after that. The BIOS upgrade must have caused it. :-( > > > > OK... this hang is really weird. Everything is fine as long as I > > stay in single-user mode. I can ifconfig interfaces, run cvsup, > > etc. But just seconds after booting multi-user and getting the > > login prompt, the system hangs solid. I've tried old 4.3 GENERIC > > kernels, recent kernels, all the same. I've removed everything > > imaginable from the startup sequence. Nothing in > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d starting up, nothing on rc.local, I even > > somehow managed to accidentally delete rc.conf and still it hangs > > on boot. Made up a new rc.conf with everything disabled that > > usually gets turned on by default. Even took out all of the > > tweaks in sysctl.conf. No go. Anyone else seeing this on a > > Compaq or any other box? > > I found the cause of the hangs, at least one half of the cause. > While perusing through dmesg, I noticed that there were some devices > probed and "found" that I had disabled in the system configuration > utility. Taking a shot in the dark, I completely removed three unused > drivers from the kernel (sio, ppc/lpt, psm). Now the system no longer > freezes when going multi-user. WHY FreeBSD froze when going > multi-user, and only multi-user, is a mystery to me. > > Before that I managed to get everything limping along by configuring > everything by hand and running all of my services in single-user mode. > :-) > > For the purposes of the archives, the machine in question is a Compaq > Proliant ML530 using the 4/XX/2001 BIOS (XX=12, I think). This > problem occurred with a 4.3-RELEASE GENERIC kernel as well, so it > definately isn't something introduced by any of the recent changes > we've also been talking about, but rather introduced by some version > of the Proliant ML530 BIOS between December 1999 and April 2001. I > suppose some changed default behaviours in the newer System > Configuration Utility could have caused the problems as well. I > didn't test the December 1999 BIOS with the newest configuration > utility to see if the problem still occurred. > > Now back to the problem of the PCI BIOS and PCI interrupt routing on > these beasts. :-) Sorry for the lateness of this reply, I've only been back from 4 weeks of vacation for a week and I still have 1272 messages of over 5000 to read (scan, etc.). This one caught my interest. I had the same problem under 4.3-RELEASE in March of this year. I/O to any SCSI device attached to my 2940U/UW, especially the Zip-100 drive (when it was still attached) caused the hangs. This was on a PIII 933 on an ASUS CUSL2-C motherboard. The same PCI cards and devices worked flawlessly on on a P120 I had just replaced. Setting the motherboard PCI option, via the BIOS, to PCI 2.0 from PCI 2.1, solved my problem. I suspect that the 2940U/UW that I have is incapable of handling PCI 2.1 under certain circumstances. Anyhow, I'm a happy camper now. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD Ministry of Management Services Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message