From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 15 04:47:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9601C16A405; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153B713C4BC; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l2F4lA1P062147; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:47:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id l2F4kXUs062142; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:46:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:46:30 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Beech Rintoul Message-ID: <20070315044630.GB62026@thought.org> References: <20070314155326.GA23363@thought.org> <45F81DCF.6050309@FreeBSD.org> <20070314230041.GA96282@thought.org> <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200703141555.36585.beech@alaskaparadise.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: Observing twenty years of service to the Unix community Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan Subject: Re: binary patches? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:47:35 -0000 On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 02:55:15PM -0900, Beech Rintoul wrote: > On Wednesday 14 March 2007 15:00, Gary Kline said: > > > This issue comes up about every six months. If you google the mailing > list you will find extensive discussion about why binary upgrades are > a bad idea. Well, certainly not upgrading the "world" and kernel.... > If you want to upgrade using packages only > use 'portupgrade -PP'. Bear in mind it takes the package build > cluster a couple of weeks to catch up. For security reasons we > (maintainers) don't build packages and building binaries for every > possible configuration would place an extreme load on the build > cluster (not to mention the space required to host them all). I'm willing to donate one 400Mhz Kayak; just sans memory or disk. Seriously, but I think the cluster needs much faster hardware. At any rate, I was thinking of inbetweener-patches; so that it would be possible to stay current between pkg-1.2.3_4 and pkg-1.2.3_5, say. This, only for the vanilla i386 packages. Still, given the variables of CPUTYPE and the possible/probably diffs in -Optimization and other CFLAGS variations, it's pretty clear that evn a vanilla patch would be overkill. With almost 17K ports, you guys have enough on your hands! gary > > Beech > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Beech Rintoul - Port Maintainer - beech@alaskaparadise.com > /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x > \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org > X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: > / \ - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix