From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Nov 29 12:53:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.inter7.com (ns1.inter7.com [209.218.8.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88FCD37B41B for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5894 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2001 20:53:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nitedog) (65.6.158.15) by evanston.inter7.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2001 20:53:24 -0000 Message-ID: <001101c17918$8020e520$0301a8c0@nitedog> Reply-To: "Randall Hamilton" From: "Randall Hamilton" To: "Anthony Atkielski" , "John Baldwin" Cc: , "Giorgos Keramidas" References: <02d901c17911$f25116d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:57:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > John writes: > > > Umm, that's called "stable", not "secure". > > A system that is unstable is insecure as well. It is vulnerable to DoS attacks, > for example. I disagree completly. i know of many secure unstable machines. sloaris x86 for example :) Putting jest aside..a unstable machine is not insecure..have a unstable machine without any kind of network...and its still unstable..putting the same machine on a network does not automaticly make it insecure. > > Then again, they have so many problems with it > > that I'm tempted to at least put a FreeBSD > > gateway/nat box in their house to eliminate all the > > network problems at least. :) > > A router is cheaper. and weaker. most cheap-low end network routers for dsl/cable have very weak thruput and packet handling...not to mention most that have a built in 'hub' only offer 10mbit..some 100mbit..but both being non switched. a p200-p300 box and a good 100mbit switch would be far far superior to one of those rinky dink setups, and would cost little more. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message