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Date:      Sat, 9 Oct 1999 11:25:29 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Jaime Kikpole <jaime@malkav.snowmoon.com>
To:        whitehat@home.com
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: total lag
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910091115580.47551-100000@malkav.snowmoon.com>
In-Reply-To: <37FED0DC.2A63CF6D@home.com>

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On Fri, 8 Oct 1999 whitehat@home.com wrote:
> Now I have yet another obstacle.  For some reason, KDE is INSANELY slow,
> and so does every other WM i've tried.  It takes 3 min for netscape to
> load, and the machine is grinding like crazy...its working way to hard. 
> Will it help if I increase my Swap size? right now its 98 MB, and my RAM
> is 48MB (so the swap file is rougly two times my RAM, as recommended). 

	Sounds to me like your box is running out of space in RAM to do
things, so its trying to swap lots of pages back and forth between swap
and RAM.  Increase your RAM to 64MB if you can.  I run on that and don't
have any problems.  The problems that you describe remind me of my 486
with 20MB of RAM.

	For more info, switch to a virtual terminal (Alt-F2), login, and
run top.  Then, on another virtual terminal (Alt-F1) run X.  While its
loading (just after the grey screen shows up), hit Alt-Cntrl-F2 to get
back to the screen with top on it.  Watch the way your box uses the RAM
available to it while different programs load.  Then use Alt-F4 to get
back to X and run some programs (Netscape, xmms, etc.) and switch back to
top to see how that effects things.  I'm pretty sure that you'll see lots
of "In" and "Out" status messages, which indicates that pages of memory
are being swapped to and from disk.


> Or, mabye increase my root partition (which is currently set at 30MB). 

	This shouldn't be relivant in any way to what you're describing.


> Or, mabye its the fact that I didnt
> make a /proc partition...here is my current system setup (might help
> you)
> 
> Filesystem      1K-blocks       Used    Avail   Capacity        Mount
> 
> /dev/wd0s2a     29751           22932   4439    84%             /
> /dev/wd0s2e     595383          286406  261317  52%             /usr
> procfs          4               4       0       100%            /proc
> 
> Mabye I should create a /proc partition..for some reason FreeBSD
> automaticly made that "procfs" entry, perhaps thats whats slowing my
> whole system down.  Any ideas?

	The process file system (procfs) is a virtual file system.  Its
not actually on the disk.  Its just a file-system-like representation of
what's going on in memory.  I've had it on a K5 PR133 (Pentium Rating,
133MHz) with only 16MB of RAM.  The only problem on that system was when I
ran out of RAM.  :)

						Good luck,
						Jaime



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