Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:15:15 -0800 From: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> To: Robin Schoonover <end@endif.cjb.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pop3 and socket 110 Message-ID: <20031027021515.GA64154@tao.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20031026183436.4c657664.end@endif.cjb.net> References: <20031027012334.GA64027@tao.thought.org> <20031026183436.4c657664.end@endif.cjb.net>
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On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:34:36PM -0700, Robin Schoonover wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:23:34 -0800, Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> > Trying to install a GUI MUA has me wedged ... and lost!!
> >
> > I've been trying to get the mozilla mail/news suite to
> > work for a long time--well, on and off! I finally
> > installed cucipop on NS1.THOUGHT.ORG and tried to start it.
> >
> > root@ns1:/usr/local/etc/rc.d# /usr/local/libexec/cucipop -Y
> > cucipop: Can't bind socket 110
> >
>
> Something is probably already listening on port 110. Check sockstat -l (if
> it's FreeBSD, or check to see if something in inetd is grabbing it...).
>
Yep, altho I'm not sure why or how:
root inetd 24764 7 tcp4 *:110 *:*
I commented out pop3 and reinitialized; then the socket was
113. --This is a bit over my head; 113 is given to auth.
Why is it grabbing the POP socket?
> >
> > NS1 had a valid IP address; my two other systems are internal,
> > private, invisible from the outside. At any rate, after some
> > pondering I altered the 'news and mail' configuration. Voila;
> > mail *is* sent out (in HTML). But not received... (???)
> > /var/mail/kline is my spool; mozilla can't see this for some
> > reason.
> >
>
> mozilla doesn't know about these sort of mailboxes. It only knows about
> imap and pop3.
>
Thanks for the insight. Well, room for improvement... .
> >
> > evolution refuses to build because some of the GNOME libs
> > won't upgrade. (Of my 400 ports, just 11 seem broken.)
> > Can anybody recommend a GUI mail program that doesn't have
> > so many dependencies?
> >
>
> portupgrade might help your GNOME libs upgrade. Anyhow, I use
> sylpheed-claws (basically the more cutting edge version of sylpheed).
I used portupgrade for all but 11 of my out-of-date ports.
It's great. Unfortunately, it can't fix broken code and I'm
happy with ctwm ;-)
>
> > 1.) Do I really need pop3?
>
> If you want to use mozilla.
>
> > 2.) How do I get the mozilla mail to recognize the mail in my spool
> > dir?
>
> You probably don't.
>
> > 3.) What is a decent MUA?
>
> that's debatable. I consider what I use to be decent :P
>
I'll give sylpheed a look. I really prefer discreet tools
than bundled/bloat. Use mutt 99% of the time. So when I
find a decent GUI client, I'm gonna rebuild mozilla sans'
the mailer.
thanks el-mucho!
gary
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Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public service Unix
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