From owner-freebsd-chat Mon May 4 05:19:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17142 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 4 May 1998 05:19:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17123 for ; Mon, 4 May 1998 05:18:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA09082; Mon, 4 May 1998 12:18:47 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id OAA03966; Mon, 4 May 1998 14:18:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980504141845.34552@follo.net> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 14:18:45 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Anatoly Vorobey , ac199@hwcn.org Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/ijb - Imported sources References: <19980504111800.32162@techunix.technion.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19980504111800.32162@techunix.technion.ac.il>; from Anatoly Vorobey on Mon, May 04, 1998 at 11:18:00AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 11:18:00AM +0300, Anatoly Vorobey wrote: > > Eivind long > > ago agreed that a program which filters large, fat, unnecessary > > gifs has definate potential use. I agreed with him implicitly. > > 'Unnecessary' is in the beholder's eye, and you undermine your > argument beautifully yourself. For me, _every_ ad is an unnecessary, > large fat gif (or jpeg or whatever). What you want, however, is that > I would be unable to define precisely just what is "large, fat, > unnecessary" for me and what isn't. What I want (in direct and practical terms for FreeBSD) is for the comment of IJB to be something like 'proxy to filter which URLs to retrieve (pattern based)', for IJB come with a sample config that isn't set up to target advertising removal, and for the pkg/DESCR of ijb to describe what side-effects removing advertising has (namely, that you stop the revenue stream to the site you're visiting.) And sure, you can define letting creators get paid as unecessary. I define this e.g. for Microsoft's software - I try to convince all my friends that _paying for_ Microsoft's software is more wrong than using it without paying. However, I personally don't define all sites I visit as worthless - otherwise I wouldn't visit them. Thus I feel it as worthwhile to take a small extra expense (extra download time) to let them get paid. I've even seen an intersting ad once or twice... (Not often, though.) Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message