From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 19 03:54:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647B016A4CE for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 03:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from destiny.chrononomicon.com (mail.chrononomicon.com [65.193.73.208]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A0843D31 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 03:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (destiny.chrononomicon.com [192.168.1.42]) by destiny.chrononomicon.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A0E1FDFF for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:53:59 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) In-Reply-To: References: <200403182042.i2IKg2c18484@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <2C0C0548-791E-11D8-A66F-000A956D2452@chrononomicon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <1BE441DA-799C-11D8-9BC6-000A956D2452@chrononomicon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Bart Silverstrim Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:53:59 -0500 To: FreeBSD-questions Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Subject: Re: Mail readers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:54:11 -0000 On Mar 19, 2004, at 2:49 AM, Gary W. Swearingen wrote: > Bart Silverstrim writes: > >> No. Nothing. Format=3Dflowed applies solely to plain-text messages. = HTML >> messages already have something functionally equivalent to f=3Df: the >>
attribute, which... um... quotes blocks of text. When = f=3Df >> mailers that also can handle HTML encounter
text, it=92s >> usually marked up with the same excerpt bars we=92re familiar with = from >> f=3Df. Format=3Dflowed isn=92t actually at work there, but since >>
text flows nicely when you resize a window, the effect = is >> the same. > I've never heard of this f=3Df stuff and don't have time just now to > investigate, but I'll keep typing anyway. I think the problem is > the same but worse. f=3Df is probably spec'd in a new draft RFC and > many mail readers don't support it, so your correspondents on a list > list this can't handle it well. > According to the FAQ, it (f=3Df) was developed (IIRC) by Qualcomm to not=20= solve any problem in particular. However, this form of formatting=20 would allow text to be easily formatted into columns readable by any=20 kind of simple display...i.e., PDAs and cellphones with text messaging=20= and email, etc. and at the same time it would easily scale to larger=20 (PC) displays with pretty formatting and proper wrapping. Older=20 readers would just ignore the formatting characters and mangle it=20 accordingly. Oddly enough (if my current theory holds) where the invisible f=3Df=20 formatting is inserted in an Apple app is dependent on the width of the=20= composition window...which on my iBook really sucks because this window=20= looks so NARROW compared to what I'm used to, hoping that other=20 people's mail readers work a little better with reading my posts to the=20= list. I haven't heard other people complaining as much about my mail=20 wrapping at the 120 mark, so I'm hoping that maybe this will make it=20 easier for others... It shouldn't be that hard for terminal mailers to adopt f=3Df, if I'm=20 understanding it properly...just be a matter of time. -Bart