From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 18 11:16:24 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF852E350C0 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D560874C10 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D1BA4E350BE; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:16:24 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1442E350BD for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from a-painless.mh.aa.net.uk (a-painless.mh.aa.net.uk [81.187.30.51]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9984E74C0F for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@woodcruft.co.uk) Received: from woodcruft.co.uk ([81.187.27.248] helo=lime.woodcruft.co.uk) by a-painless.mh.aa.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1e4mKl-0006mY-5L; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:16:23 +0100 Received: by lime.woodcruft.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D56542AC; Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:16:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 12:16:12 +0100 From: Frank Shute To: Chris Hill Cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Slow xorg after upgrade Message-ID: <20171018111612.GA1070@woodcruft.co.uk> Reply-To: Frank Shute References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p1 amd64 X-Organisation: 'woodcruft.co.uk' X-PGP-Key: http://woodcruft.co.uk/misc/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 11:16:25 -0000 --NzB8fVQJ5HfG6fxh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 09:09:05PM -0400, Chris Hill wrote: > > Hello list, >=20 > Two days ago I had to upgrade xorg (long story). Since then, it seems=20 > that text entry is laggy, as if the xterm - or any application, for that= =20 > matter - can't keep up with my typing. It feels like the old days of=20 > typing on an ASR-33; there is a lag of less than one second between=20 > typing a character and it appearing on screen. Sometimes when text=20 > draws, I see a moment of raster-looking junk. This is especially visible= =20 > in text that updates from a program, such as the in-progress statistics= =20 > from fetch. Or even when pasting text via middle-click. Or even when=20 > moving the cursor with the arrow keys while writing this email. >=20 > Is this just an example of new software being more more bloated? It=20 > seems to me that under the old regime things were snappy-quick. >=20 > Before: xorg-7.7_1 > After: xorg-7.7_3 >=20 > Both: fvwm-2.6.5_7 >=20 > Both: > $ uname -mriKv=20 > 10.3-RELEASE-p11 FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p11 #0: Mon Oct 24 18:49:24 UTC=20 > 2016 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC= =20 > amd64 GENERIC 1003000 >=20 > Thank you. =20 Hi Chris, You saying "...I had to upgrade xorg (long story)" gets my antennae twitching. Perhaps you could expand on that a bit. My first place to look would be: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if anything goes awry when X starts. I updated xorg the other day with zero problems but there again I rebuilt all my ports (using poudriere).=20 You're barking up the wrong tree suggesting software bloat in the case of X is the problem. A regression? Maybe. But X becoming incredibly slow due to bloat in a point-release? No. You don't mention how you go about rebuilding your ports or what your video hardware (and associated driver) is. 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