From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 2 07:58:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E636D16A4CE; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 07:58:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from arginine.spc.org (arginine.spc.org [195.206.69.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F07743D2F; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 07:58:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bms@spc.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AC36543B; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:58:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from arginine.spc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arginine.spc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26017-03-9; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:58:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from saboteur.dek.spc.org (82-147-17-88.dsl.uk.rapidplay.com [82.147.17.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by arginine.spc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FA565216; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:58:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: by saboteur.dek.spc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3BFFE18; Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:58:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 15:58:44 +0000 From: Bruce M Simpson To: Brad Knowles Message-ID: <20040302155844.GP4561@saboteur.dek.spc.org> Mail-Followup-To: Brad Knowles , Gleb Smirnoff , Andre Oppermann , freebsd-net@freebsd.org References: <4043B6BA.B847F081@freebsd.org> <200403011507.52238.wes@softweyr.com> <20040302031625.GA4061@scylla.towardex.com> <20040302042957.GH3841@saboteur.dek.spc.org> <20040302082625.GE22985@cell.sick.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org cc: Andre Oppermann Subject: Re: My planned work on networking stack X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2004 15:58:49 -0000 On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 01:07:58PM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: [..] > His only issue with using exclusively PC equipment for handling > routing is all those strange WAN protocols and cards for which > hardware cards are rarely available beyond vendors like cisco or > Juniper. That's why he's going pure Ethernet protocols/hardware > throughout all his networks, including his upstream feeds, so that he > can dump all that expensive ancient legacy routing hardware. That won't necessarily scale... but YMMV... > If anything, I'd be inclined to look towards his work for OpenBSD > and see if that could be imported into FreeBSD (and maybe improved, > with contributions given back to him), rather than mess around with > crap like zebra or quagga. The last time I looked at his code it looked pretty much like a straight lift from the MRTD tree. This was a few months ago... and this was brief... > Oh, and it would be nice if someone somewhere started thinking > about a mesh routing implementation for *BSD, either AODV or > something else. //depot/user/bms/aodv/aodvd/... BMS