From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Aug 25 14:04:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA09800 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09794 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pf1.phil.uni-sb.de (root@pf1.phil.uni-sb.de [134.96.82.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29936 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 14:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by pf1.phil.uni-sb.de (8.8.6/8.8.6/961001chris) with ESMTP id XAA23160 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 23:04:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.50]) id QQdeee10107; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 17:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA01980; Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:15:41 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199708252015.NAA01980@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Anarchists decry 72lbs plutonium launch To: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com (Brian N. Handy) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 13:15:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, rminnich@Sarnoff.COM, jkh@time.cdrom.com, screwinup@aol.com, saar-lists-freebsd-hackers@uunet.uu.net In-Reply-To: from "Brian N. Handy" at Aug 25, 97 10:44:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Hum... I've got one vote for Princeton, one vote for Stanford, > >and one 1981 issue of "Fusion" magazine voting for Berkeley. 8-). > > So you're both wrong? > > http://ippex.pppl.gov/ippex/module_5/whats_a_tokamak.html Way cool URL. Where does it say they were the first to break-even? According to the Fusion FAQ, the TFTR at Princeton has only made Q=.46 of breakeven, and the next experintal series is expected to render the containment vessel radioactive, and potentially peak at only Q=1.14 (break-even by .14, but still too small for commercial viability). Anyway, this belongs on -chat now... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.