From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 23 23:32:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817CD106566B for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:32:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lichray@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A818FC0C for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so7039235qwc.13 for ; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:32:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=idFNiRlZkLyCcRORmILcUVrJy8FFfpZwhwnmXSP4HDQ=; b=kQlYd7hvQbX0UODkJo0kWY6rmiA90Yx9JNKFi3MKWTnIVcDGyINhj+L8ArR8cNcxms 1ic8NQdxU33qGF0aW35mmZ52G0g22Tkbr8D18AzlGHoSq1RptOSMEG5ZngOi7+e7k0p/ gPLggXfYY7n7b00dVkIs7GSBSfKG3VOdxZs3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JVOrlOK4M0jIzaxbzM/b34OsIoOo65kfEnViIIBgl5XTex5fMuIV09zP06qAHtxUob yj1ZJCfZs/W9vlXxBZIGQkugw9BfVE9ixF5Gk8KTyVojIdfhHbdF0wApHZXDYsMciysP /RC0TvXhI1LhHJmnr/M1GPp2zzG4qJp46qkt8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.200.196 with SMTP id ex4mr6554850qab.5.1300923125379; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.20.19 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:32:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <86mxkm1erm.fsf@gmail.com> <86aaglx1ow.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 18:32:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Zhihao Yuan To: Arnaud Lacombe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Pan Tsu Subject: Re: [GSoC] About the idea: Unicode support in vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 23:32:06 -0000 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Zhihao Yuan wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Pan Tsu wrote: >>> Zhihao Yuan writes: >>>> I'm not sure whether the FreeBSD system administrators (who opens 100 >>>> ssh sessions) agree with that to replace the nvi in base system with >>>> this one. >>> >>> Do they expect more features beyond POSIX vi? >> >> Like multiple windows. This has been discussed y other BSDs before. >> > For the reference, on the Linux side, busybox do all what an admin > would reasonably expect (I mean _all_ the basic userland, not just > editing text) in a binary smaller than nvi. Now, it's true that _you_ > might not care about size/bloat, at least accept that some do. > > =C2=A0- Arnaud > Among *all* the GNU/Linux distributions I used, they include a vim compiled in tiny mode (ln -s it to vi), which doubles the size of nvi, in their base systems. A vim.tiny contains much more features compared with nvi, but it's not compatible with POSIX vi. --=20 Zhihao Yuan The best way to predict the future is to invent it.