From owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Thu Dec 21 16:00:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C677E9F5E5 for ; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDD146B78E; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 968DA1204; Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:00:06 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 10:00:05 -0600 From: Mark Linimon To: Gary Jennejohn Cc: Tommi Pernila , Tijl Coosemans , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, linimon@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Vote: making wayland=on default (also posted to ports@) Message-ID: <20171221160005.GA2704@lonesome.com> References: <20171220132717.0eb5777d@ernst.home> <20171220180106.0224107c@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <0cadf450-ce6b-f9bc-bdbd-99f89c4dec6f@unrelenting.technology> <20171221113800.4b3acf10@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20171221164635.7a348ad0@ernst.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20171221164635.7a348ad0@ernst.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:00:09 -0000 On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 04:46:35PM +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > If the eventual goal is to eliminate pure X11 and only offer the crap > being put into the Linux kernel, then there will be lots of unhappy > campers. The question here is about upstream support. If all the X11 developers switch to using Wayland, at some point X11 will bitrot. And our own X11 volunteers are overwhelmed as it is. mcl