From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 16 01:31:05 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1CB16A4B3 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd6mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF98943F85 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from pd2mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr1so-ser.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.110])2003))freebsd-security@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:31:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml6so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.150]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) freebsd-security@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:31:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk (h24-87-233-42.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42])2003)) freebsd-security@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:31:03 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:31:01 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <20030916105523.K69601-100000@gandalf.raditex.se> X-Sender: cperciva@popserver.sfu.ca To: G Hasse Message-id: <5.0.2.1.1.20030916012711.02d23a88@popserver.sfu.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20030916101414.54b145ca.db@traceroute.dk> cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot -s - can i detect intruder X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:31:05 -0000 At 10:57 16/09/2003 +0000, G Hasse wrote: >There is *no* reason to shut down the system in ordinary >maintainance! I don't know if any of these apply in this case, but how about 1. Power consumption 2. Noise 3. Heat 4. Transportation 5. Hardware lifetime (potentially). Not all FreeBSD boxes are servers. Colin Percival