From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 5 17:45:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B408106564A for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 17:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-14.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-14.bluehost.com [69.89.18.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 673728FC12 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 17:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 22541 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jun 2009 17:45:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Jun 2009 17:45:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=fmzcP6UscqoEq+kpfhkebzL13WceAIPrs+kWCT1L3h0hAoubjILV6zVSUsB80EaiMdoYID+Q7vnUH2pyVMN1izqPUMV1MGcN1rKwmOxJqJMsDCPywmRBB17jOilU/jt/; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MCdUC-0005Hh-Pz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:45:49 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:40:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:40:25 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090605174025.GB87456@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4d3f56c90906020812t40c5fcbv178bcd7f702356f@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310906020843n3e7dc96ap28d5d622e844abf1@mail.gmail.com> <20090603004914.73f40a60@gluon.draftnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090603004914.73f40a60@gluon.draftnet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Open_Source X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:45:49 -0000 --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 12:49:14AM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:59:51 +0200 (CEST) > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >=20 > > I would add - with Open Source add it's far smaller (actually close > > to zero) probability that it doesn't do anything except it's supposed > > to do. > >=20 > > I mean things like sending private data to someone else, scanning for= =20 > > other programs i have on disk, my addressbook etc. >=20 > Given enough incentive, it unfortunately seems even open source > developers will resort to sneaky tactics: > http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/05/mozilla-ponders-policy-ch= ange-after-firefox-extension-battle.ars It's worth noting that this was discovered relatively quickly and became public knowledge. If it was closed source software, there's basically just be complaints about incompatibility and speculation without hard evidence. Yes, such perfidy *can* occur even in open source software, but it's easier to discover and, I believe, less likely to occur because of that ease of discovery. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Malaclypse the Younger: "'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkopWIkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVqTACgxE2Utnjhz3E0jbs2tvaJfNy9 7CAAoOKWugFiPHMtO/f1uFX8i7Xexg3/ =NLlw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7ZAtKRhVyVSsbBD2--