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Date:      Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:04:37 +0200
From:      Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
To:        "Louis A. Mamakos" <louie@TransSys.COM>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak 
Message-ID:  <200007180604.IAA03329@grimreaper.grondar.za>
In-Reply-To: <200007180145.VAA00554@whizzo.transsys.com> ; from "Louis A. Mamakos" <louie@TransSys.COM>  "Mon, 17 Jul 2000 21:45:52 -0400."
References:  <200007180145.VAA00554@whizzo.transsys.com> 

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> Actually, you could really use this in ntpd(8), rather than just ntpdate.
> You could crank in the offset and delay samples for each packet
> received from an NTP peer; this will have the effect of adding into
> the entropy pool the "noise" in the latency of the path between you
> and each of your NTP peers.  This varies over time with each sample,
> and in fact, NTP goes to considerable effort in it's sample filtering
> to exclude the noisy samples.  We need to get that date before it's
> discarded and contribute it to the entropy cause.

You forget; a snooper watching your (ether)net has access to nearly
all of this information.

M
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