From owner-freebsd-chat Wed May 30 2: 6:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0DA37B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:06:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Rahul.Siddharthan@lpt.ens.fr) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f4U96fR36613 ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:06:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA60016 ; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:07:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:07:15 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Terry Lambert Cc: Kris Kirby , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFilter not free software? Message-ID: <20010530110715.F57297@lpt.ens.fr> References: <3B14B54B.5A1D2586@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B14B54B.5A1D2586@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 01:54:35AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert said on May 30, 2001 at 01:54:35: > > On Fri, 25 May 2001, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > This is where most GPL stuff falls apart, since the GPL > > > effectively redefines "use" to be "utilize". The UCB > > > license doesn't have all the long-winded clauses which > > > do that: when the UCB license says "use", it meand "use". > > > > Correct me if I am wrong, but the UCB license was written > > by a lawyer. Is this true of the GPL? > > Yes. RMS contracted it out. The confusion is intentional. According to Darren Reed, any lawyer will tell you that *his* copyright notice means redistribution of unmodified code is allowed, not redistribution of modified code. "Use" perhaps allows modification for personal purposes, but distribution of modified code violates copyright law. http://www.deadly.org/article.php3?sid=20010527142347 (Warning: that page is not for the faint of heart). The BSD licence explicitly permits modification. So this is not an issue for BSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message