From owner-freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Thu Jul 16 16:36:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF01E9A33C0 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.in-addr.com (mail.in-addr.com [IPv6:2a01:4f8:191:61e8::2525:2525]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AADEA1F71 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from gjp by mail.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.85 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ZFm9I-000Ing-D8; Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:36:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:36:40 +0100 From: Gary Palmer To: Mario Lobo Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Query about Virtualbox version. Message-ID: <20150716163640.GC41419@in-addr.com> References: <20150715120619.GA41419@in-addr.com> <1437042996.75095.YahooMailBasic@web190105.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <20150716135014.GB41419@in-addr.com> <20150716123646.67660818@Papi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20150716123646.67660818@Papi> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: gpalmer@freebsd.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on mail.in-addr.com); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:36:44 -0000 On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:36:46PM -0300, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 14:50:14 +0100 > Gary Palmer wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 06:36:36PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief > > wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > On Wed, 15/7/15, Gary Palmer wrote: > > > > > > Subject: Re: Query about Virtualbox version. > > > To: "muhammedzubair sharief" > > > Cc: vbox@FreeBSD.org > > > Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2015, 6:06 PM > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at > > > 06:33:52PM +0800, muhammedzubair sharief wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Maintainer, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using Virtualbox 4.3.28 on FreeBSD > > > 10.1, during recent pkg upgrade it showed version 4.3.30. > > > > > > > > > > > [..] > > > > > pkg upgrade > > > > > > > Installed packages to be UPGRADED: > > > > > > > ??? virtualbox-ose-kmod: 4.3.28 -> 4.3.30 > > > > ??? virtualbox-ose: 4.3.28_1 -> > > > 4.3.30 > > > > > > > > The > > > process will require 14 KiB more space. > > > > > > > 32 MiB to be downloaded. > > > > > > > > Proceed with this action? [y/N]: > > > > [..] > > > > > > > > > > > > However there was no > > > stable release of 4.3.30. Is this version 5 which was > > > recently released? > > > > > > > > Thanks for maintaining Virtualbox on > > > FreeBSD! > > > > > > > > > https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Download_Old_Builds_4_3 > > > > > > Quote:? "VirtualBox > > > 4.3.30 (released July 10th 2015)" > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > Thanks, the last time I checked(on 9th July) it was not there which > > > was during version 5 release, I am afraid that moving to version > > > 5.0 might break the Virtualbox VM installations on 4.3.x. Will > > > version 5 replace 4.3.x or that be maintained separately? > > > > > > I can't speak for the FreeBSD VBox maintainers, but in general > > FreeBSD ports try to put major versions into a new port (e.g. > > emulators/virtualbox-ose5 or similar) so that people are not forced > > to upgrade and possibly break working configurations, and allow a > > transition period. > > > > I would expect that unless by some miracle the kernel module works > > for both VBox 4.3.x and 5.0.x, you may not be able to have both > > versions installed on the same system at the same time. > > > > Regards, > > > > Gary > > Forgive my lameness but for the VM itself should make no > difference, right? Except noticing possible improvements on > responsiveness, speed, etc... Well, maybe there could incompatibilities > if the VM has guestadditions 4.3.28/30 installed and is running on a > 5.0 environment, although I believe this shouldn't happen. > > Other than the above, the only thing that comes to mind is if the .vdi > disk layout has changed so much that would make HD images produced in > one version incompatible with the other. I hardly doubt that. > > So, assuming VBox 5.0 is stable and bug-free, what would be the reason > to keep both 4.3.28/30 and 5.0 installed? Your assumption states the issue exactly. Most dot zero software is not bug free. Regards, Gary