From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Oct 21 14:30:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100A9A1BCA1 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C614C32F for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id t9LEUgSr099718 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 21 Oct 2015 08:30:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id t9LEUgme099715; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 08:30:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 08:30:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: "Brandon J. Wandersee" cc: krad , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: gjournal and TRIM: A safe combination? In-Reply-To: <86pp081glq.fsf@WorkBox.Home> Message-ID: References: <867fmh12nq.fsf@WorkBox.Home> <86pp081glq.fsf@WorkBox.Home> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 21 Oct 2015 08:30:42 -0600 (MDT) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:30:50 -0000 On Wed, 21 Oct 2015, Brandon J. Wandersee wrote: > > krad writes: > >> I thought SU+J was the preferred method these days, not gjournal. I quite >> out of touch with ufs these days though. >> > > I thought the opposite, myself. `gjournal` has its own section in the > Handbook, while SU+J isn't even mentioned. I also thought there was > something fundamentally different about them--like SU+J simply maintains > filesystem integrity, while gjournal actually protects files from the > write hole as well as protecting the filesystem. I could be wrong. This is correct. SUJ is only concerned with filesystem integrity. But if you are considering gjournal, why not go the whole way and just use ZFS?