From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 10 06:11:12 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D5264336D for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 06:11:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x429.google.com (mail-pf1-x429.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::429]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G0trv1MhWz3DpB for ; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 06:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x429.google.com with SMTP id g6so718820pfq.1 for ; Wed, 09 Jun 2021 23:11:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hRvyA2nYanCHxZRfhYJIzMJ6XjD8RLoDK2xlaWZdf/A=; b=DrHouK2bLlEqoyCQ7Fpgdoagn4KFHNItGujZzrlXKMloeYHMNfG567iRqWXhl/l4E2 k4Uak3bKXnfo6kUc1j14LX1TcKHjDCs2dWU58w6KizUtx6bjmZRI2115s2X1y56sFQha VaOW//1ZzHxgYZGDJ5w5y+jMedD5bmgc7//D0JDMyEmAWFlMcQNJN5v7xiWWIA1f2TAF 4gVlMwIlfDY2sdNtJ9qym38vHq7eJX2thRJUk+DUoTd0q5MYDwx4QNGwHZmgiovw68EF /6UzexC2lMwhhJIJtteE63QqRqeZVhUlL6RjmuninqEmKyYkcMlINf24pTJn2cB8OT9V xuqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hRvyA2nYanCHxZRfhYJIzMJ6XjD8RLoDK2xlaWZdf/A=; b=JZZrOLF2DAEcdKMo/ZqDRREmxhUhE2F57OT3hJD9YNVlyO6Wu5J/R1XX8uB1uHG7Rj Q9X1Kr5iaANHxv+rMxB6aansJzgw/1GdOv/ui0qfcSxdERlwI/YB2wlJ3EKJ6Nf3mC2i uH8F9jvg7GEzysh02a235WM7ESEX0YOZW6MTtOI9kvPG7cyYb3sOK1dIzGbKAa1cPPCP IMb68cU8sLvBU/8XdN32h2plZHqzqDHo2Y0+HXAKGmz9AGJH9/ffRnkw9/bpClv6s89m 2BRNikp067fLFmGMwQGfUQ2AekItmCAfcV8oZZBfs3MWJNcaiS1JuWfBYFlC658p7off 9dgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ZDKZz4Q2UMNzwoOGoxp9aKD3NKgxddZo3qIJf99blmdqikThP 4HK9e3V/mQ2CNW1jTT0G1MQS01pMON0sxY6fG0uHlcFXhJR4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyJA0lt9PZ1dpMDUXajaf6dvmpI06bOpoQXwppxdI1yrbsGa5Hej5JgMYCrHW89EQrDECtEDFG2/rvRihOR2us= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:9912:0:b029:2e9:c61d:2f27 with SMTP id z18-20020aa799120000b02902e9c61d2f27mr1460617pff.60.1623305469140; Wed, 09 Jun 2021 23:11:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Paul Procacci Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 02:10:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: lang/php72 needed To: Victor Sudakov Cc: Odhiambo Washington , FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4G0trv1MhWz3DpB X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=DrHouK2b; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of pprocacci@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::429 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=pprocacci@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::429:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::429:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::429:from]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 06:11:12 -0000 >> The closest equivalent to Docker is jail, but jail lacks all the >> infrastructure and automation Docker has. There are attempts to build >> something like Docker (iocage is the most known IMHO but its images are >> not layered which kills all the fun). Never tried this, but you may want to evaluate focker. https://github.com/sadaszewski/focker It may be 'good enough' for your needs. Who knows. Good Luck. On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 1:35 AM Victor Sudakov wrote: > Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > > > I did not know that there are "poudriere" unofficial repos. I thought > > > those > > > > were personal builds. > > > > > > > > > > It's a terminological question mostly. For the present, I've googled > > > this up: https://github.com/simplerezo/freebsd-ports-php-vintages > > > I'll try if it works (in a dedicated poudriere tree). > > > > > > > Nice one. > > Just to be clear, I have never paid much attention to the likes of > > poudriere as I have never had a need. > > It required a small hack to work in poudriere: > https://github.com/simplerezo/freebsd-ports-php-vintages/issues/2 > but if the ${PORTSDIR}/MOVED is removed, it works for now for PHP 7.2. > > [dd] > > > > > > > > I'm not the one to dictate to developers. I actually spoke with the > guy, > > > he is pretty much OS-agnostic, and he told me "I don't see why this is > a > > > problem for you, there are all versions of PHP available for Linux, or > > > you can always use Docker." > > > > > > > True. > > > > > > > I did not tell him that we don't have Docker either. > > > > > > > True, but we have byhve, no? > > bhyve != Docker. These are different technologies. > The Linux equivalent of bhyve is kvm. > > The closest equivalent to Docker is jail, but jail lacks all the > infrastructure and automation Docker has. There are attempts to build > something like Docker (iocage is the most known IMHO but its images are > not layered which kills all the fun). > > But of course neither bhyve nor jail can run ready-made Docker > containers with PHP or whatever. > > -- > Victor Sudakov VAS4-RIPE > http://vas.tomsk.ru/ > 2:5005/49@fidonet > -- __________________ :(){ :|:& };: