Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:48:07 -0600 From: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> To: Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> Cc: Michael Watters <wattersm@watters.ws>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <6318251A-973A-4DEC-9271-12333EB11F7B@kicp.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <CAEJNuHxbFSPBB7keSrBufpg=RsgQ8EPK_fvzt8XBROLNKyN_sw@mail.gmail.com> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <CAEJNuHwRs=6kOK9uiFzEAqCgSgvUb8Xm5o2VWnK-ND_zseowdg@mail.gmail.com> <20200214141600.GA82559@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214204838.360c8f624397c659946bd764@sohara.org> <20200215063818.GE1482@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200215083359.367d8a3e9ddb4942df67d5b5@sohara.org> <58202623-bbf7-eda0-5cb5-fb4749e91e20@watters.ws> <CAEJNuHxbFSPBB7keSrBufpg=RsgQ8EPK_fvzt8XBROLNKyN_sw@mail.gmail.com>
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> On Feb 16, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions = <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote: >=20 > On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 13:45, Michael Watters <wattersm@watters.ws> = wrote: >>=20 >> On 2/15/2020 3:33 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>> Quite so, FreeBSD has all the bits to do it and has had for some >>> time, but nobody wanted a repository of pre-built jails enough to = make one. >>=20 >> Personally I find the idea of downloading and running random = container >> images from a 3rd party site to be kind of crazy. You have no idea = what >> is inside those images until you run them. >=20 I can see two opposite attitudes here locally. Being sysadmin I am 100% = with Michael: I do not want/trust to run something created by somebody = else and not necessarily thoroughly audited. I do feel fully responsible = for whatever happens because of my actions/choices. So, I build BreeBSD = jails, not even using ezjail, just =E2=80=9Cby the book=E2=80=9D, and = install/configure inside what is necessary. Majority of scientists I work for here are more or less with Ottavio: = they will run everything that they find lying there on the Internet what = is said doing what they need done. And they are entitled to that = attitude, in a sense that they have better things to do: their science, = and spending time on anything else just steals time from doing science. My apologies for this crude division, no offense intended. Valeri > I hate being the guy that defends Linux here, but, at least with > Linuxcontainers.org, the images are built using publicly available > scripts: > https://github.com/lxc/lxc-ci >=20 > Then one could build their own containers from a script. The images: > https://us.images.linuxcontainers.org/images/ >=20 > can be used as jails or chroots, provided there is some level of > binary compatibility. Major Linux distros offer their own > docker/containers images. >=20 > I wouldn't knock dockers/containers, granted that FreeBSD was there > first with jails. >=20 > --=20 > Ottavio Caruso > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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