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Date:      Sun, 16 Feb 2020 12:48:07 -0600
From:      Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com>
Cc:        Michael Watters <wattersm@watters.ws>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Technological advantages over Linux
Message-ID:  <6318251A-973A-4DEC-9271-12333EB11F7B@kicp.uchicago.edu>
In-Reply-To: <CAEJNuHxbFSPBB7keSrBufpg=RsgQ8EPK_fvzt8XBROLNKyN_sw@mail.gmail.com>
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> On Feb 16, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions =
<freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 13:45, Michael Watters <wattersm@watters.ws> =
wrote:
>>=20
>> On 2/15/2020 3:33 AM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
>>> Quite so, FreeBSD has all the bits to do it and has had for some
>>> time, but nobody wanted a repository of pre-built jails enough to =
make one.
>>=20
>> Personally I find the idea of downloading and running random =
container
>> images from a 3rd party site to be kind of crazy.  You have no idea =
what
>> is inside those images until you run them.
>=20

I can see two opposite attitudes here locally. Being sysadmin I am 100% =
with Michael: I do not want/trust to run something created by somebody =
else and not necessarily thoroughly audited. I do feel fully responsible =
for whatever happens because of my actions/choices. So, I build BreeBSD =
jails, not even using ezjail, just =E2=80=9Cby the book=E2=80=9D, and =
install/configure inside what is necessary.

Majority of scientists I work for here are more or less with Ottavio: =
they will run everything that they find lying there on the Internet what =
is said doing what they need done. And they are entitled to that =
attitude, in a sense that they have better things to do: their science, =
and spending time on anything else just steals time from doing science.

My apologies for this crude division, no offense intended.

Valeri

> I hate being the guy that defends Linux here, but, at least with
> Linuxcontainers.org, the images are built using publicly available
> scripts:
> https://github.com/lxc/lxc-ci
>=20
> Then one could build their own containers from a script. The images:
> https://us.images.linuxcontainers.org/images/
>=20
> can be used as jails or chroots, provided there is some level of
> binary compatibility. Major Linux distros offer their own
> docker/containers images.
>=20
> I wouldn't knock dockers/containers, granted that FreeBSD was there
> first with jails.
>=20
> --=20
> Ottavio Caruso
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Valeri Galtsev
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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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