From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Mar 22 15:18: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D585F14E6F for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:17:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA44002; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Chuck Robey Cc: Kevin Day , hasty@rah.star-gate.com, dm@globalserve.net, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS - Will it ever be fixed? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Mar 1999 16:56:16 EST." Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 15:16:37 -0800 Message-ID: <44000.922144597@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'll be happy to accept donations at FreeBSD, Inc. just as I have been all along, but also be well aware of the fact that spending donations on NFS is probably the worst possible use of the money. Let's just look at all the "I'll donate some money!" calls so far: I've seen a total of $900 pledged and could probably even reasonably match this with existing funds 3 times over (whee! $3600!), all of which would just about pay for about one week of somebody's time at rock-bottom "I'm doing this just because I like you" hourly consulting rates. One week is enough time to perhaps understand the problems in detail, but hardly enough time to fix them. Again, assuming rock-bottom rates and somebody truly capable of fixing NFS-class problems on the job, it's an easy 90 days worth of work and that would be $36,000 in contractor fees. Even assuming a further rate reduction for quantity, being FreeBSD, etc. we're probably talking about at least $25K and a lot of whining from the contractor about how he's practically giving his time away at that rate. It'd be far more cost-effective, by comparison, to buy 5 nice machines at around $2000 a pop and send them to 5 developers who I wanted to guilt into the process of fixing NFS (and anything else I could think of). Even more cost-effective still to simply get some 3rd-party company to foot the bill, as appears to be on the way to happening now. In other words, by all means donate some cash to the project, but please don't expect me to spend it on NFS hacking - contract labor is about the worst thing, speaking from a bang-for-buck perspective, that I could spend the project's money on. Do you know how many thousands of dollars worth of work I've gotten, for example, for the price of two $89 network cards? :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message