From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Thu Jan 12 04:50:36 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8883DCACA33 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from smtp.triumf.ca (smtp.triumf.ca [142.90.100.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E3B149A; Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from mscad14 (mscad14.triumf.ca [142.90.115.36]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.triumf.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552C5F805; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:50:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:50:34 -0800 From: To: Cc: Subject: Re: Issues with GTX960 on CentOS7 using bhyve PCI passthru (FreeBSD 11-RC2) Message-ID: <20170111205034.22623aaa@mscad14> In-Reply-To: References: <20170110003332.7cf8ba15@mscad14> <0de7e0fe-5680-b1be-bd57-6bf446c2fd38@talk2dom.com> <0c927784-3e3f-7946-fba9-c25001f4156c@talk2dom.com> <20170110180117.7f246b5a@mscad14> <20170111014544.70670784@mscad14> <93196ea2-5439-49ff-54fd-7b7273bdec85@freebsd.org> <20170111195402.785f27c6@mscad14> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 04:50:36 -0000 > I hope you keep it up or at least figure out what the driver is doing. Not in my plans at the moment. I prefer AMD GPUs over nV for OpenCL. nVidia did (and does) serve me well for the last 10 year with their excellent FreeBSD graphics driver: I had very few problems with it; it's stable and well documented, and has the performance. Huge thanks and respect to them for that [I just bought another low-end nVidia card for my home computer]. But times a-changin'. We have things like OpenCL and virtualization these days that are of interest and available to everyone (not just the "professionals"). > If they haven't explicitly put in the license terms that virtualization > is forbidden for consumer cards, there's nothing wrong with hot > patching the driver ... Why do you care about some license? It's your card, your computer, so you're free to do what _you_ want with it. How can one "forbid" virtualization? It's impossible. Only way is to design hardware and firmware that is not amenable to VT -- but nobody would do that nowadays. > assuming that they don't do things like Skype > does where it repeatedly checksums the memory image. There are ways around things. But it is easier to buy AMD than to fight someone's stupidity or incompetence. > Good hunting. > > -M -- [SorAlx] ridin' VN2000 Classic LT