From owner-freebsd-current Mon Dec 13 15: 4:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailext04.compaq.com (mailext04.compaq.com [207.18.199.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BAF158A2; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:04:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: by mailext04.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 3B954104B8C; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:04:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailint01.im.hou.compaq.com (mailint01.compaq.com [207.18.199.34]) by mailext04.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F42FB101; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:04:27 -0600 (CST) Received: by mailint01.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id 165A5825CC; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:04:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (unknown [155.186.83.42]) by mailint01.im.hou.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E5F78B42; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:04:19 -0600 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by mojave.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00916; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:32:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 12:32:09 -0600 From: Greg Lehey To: Soren Schmidt Cc: Nate Williams , Peter Wemm , Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Brad Knowles , Mike Smith , Julian Elischer , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired! Message-ID: <19991211123208.E760@mojave.worldwide.lemis.com> Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <199912102123.OAA21691@mt.sri.com> <199912102144.WAA27469@freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199912102144.WAA27469@freebsd.dk>; from sos@freebsd.dk on Fri, Dec 10, 1999 at 10:44:36PM +0100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 22:44:36 +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Nate Williams wrote: >>> If half as much energy was spent adding the missing bits of functionality >>> to the new systems as people have been spending complaining it then we'd be >>> there ages ago. >> >> Not true. It doesn't take a disk expert to complain about a policy, but >> it takes one to fix bugs/add features to the existing driver. :) :) :) > > Yeah, and some of them is spending valueable time going thru all this > garbage in their mailbox instead of doing something usefull. > > Excuse me for not taking part in this, but I _really_ think I can use > my time for better things... Sure, this thread has gone on far too long. Let's agree to the principle of leaving drivers in the system, disabled, until their replacements can do everything that they can. It looks like ata is nearly there, but what about those Cyrix users? Who has a Cyrix chip? Until we find somebody with hardware, inclination and ability, it's going to be difficult to replace the wd driver. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message