From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 28 22:14:43 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8A916A4CE for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:14:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59AC43D5E for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:14:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3AA5E8A; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:14:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 64354-05; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-68-161-53-96.ny325.east.verizon.net [68.161.53.96]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D6F5CDF; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:14:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4271602E.5030707@mac.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:14:06 -0400 From: Chuck Swiger Organization: The Courts of Chaos User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Ames References: <20050428154859.GA16433@mail.netspace.net.au> <20050428160414.GA21634@outcold.yadt.co.uk> <20050428160706.GA2033@mail.netspace.net.au> <20050428164730.GB34380@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20050428165709.GA76059@energistic.com> In-Reply-To: <20050428165709.GA76059@energistic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Jonathan Gray Subject: Re: incorrect statement on www page X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:14:44 -0000 Steve Ames wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 09:47:30AM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: >> You need to specify the (lots of stuff) better. >> Because the following are found on my system. >> >>>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/hptmv/i386-elf.raid.o.uu >>>http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/contrib/dev/nve/i386/nvenetlib.o.bz2.uu > > Sure. But they aren't source. This is rather a sad discussion as 3rd party > drivers really aren't part of the OS. Agreed. Third-party drivers under a proprietary license are not really part of FreeBSD, although, if the license permits, FreeBSD can include the binary objects into CVS and/or put them into the .ISO images for CDs. Other proprietary drivers have more onerous restrictions, and are handled via ports. The current approach is more convenient for users, and I don't suggest changing that. However, I would not be unhappy if the documentation was clarified, or if the HPT RAID driver was moved from src/sys/dev/ to src/sys/contrib/dev/ to clearly indicate that it is contributed by a third party. -- -Chuck