From owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Sun Jul 15 23:31:06 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7690A102F7B1 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 23:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22f.google.com (mail-it0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 006EA752EC for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 23:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id l16-v6so18686919ita.0 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 16:31:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=Lh3BXmfUwo9g8bEbDm4nN9PQ8tos6varNiKMGC3I/J4=; b=Mx0AOcxzY0N+OYT21RQrZhg7s+zrQ/eRWZ25kKWXrs8CaLwUlLubCSe/xP7Q2R0LqM oIkX+dkdIN/br4BevbXoKeWNpTNgA7qDzqclANlqgwcRNf7iXa/f/ArjDmnngQAmqHGc lACnu/gFnZtXU7yVGOWeH9i7vt1vD8rkLoVV7+729RM6VXOoaBHU5nz8VmEbG4D7WV98 mqCql1SdJH1zejl17wK8++GCuZHyALVbLyMp23FwjC6iC9NcQuU1aAOmKS1ZUFOYJcSD yjsYYVP6gdDQrwVmVM6VdoaEKG3HfHrOSPrD9rp2zsxnSSWNBnyJUXpTTv+FKERPbxZZ HFvw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Lh3BXmfUwo9g8bEbDm4nN9PQ8tos6varNiKMGC3I/J4=; b=M5UTqRpWxrD91lHt5cW9aJhd50GiD9Of/wUz8XVP/T7jDWrglSXNAUc+tzZgVyqyC+ +NCuMvZUa1R+5gKV/PllJqXnWoAC5yw+rXj1n2M9kKhPC/25C1UTpGJQG7s8zbKh/Vdp qEzJqtfFUD+XMCxKX8HumCYw6iO0hZjSKIrHQNxXQ0Agb6Li6bkQpKhYogbDwOzgNqaa OrreEu74rDaf4ULxphbfnjzuqaMtJhUof/ZhccHVG/px2YmAcAFrUy0XRZh4sgITPIjE qqwqUx38353D9Kz3FViiWIC3TxsV/8yOdJo9D4LWdKAd95mk8V1PWTFn0JxOp0TBuIKF 9IRw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlG5uiH96t/AiQSQUZk7kdEZyrbHBfuPA4RT/W59tI+YqkDag+1O HFs5jkqGOneV1l7yJUh5MojgZntHS/CsSyUGxpUqBA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeTPKTsWjsKDZgO9e1SjvPNUkdxxIgxaJv+0Eer3Y9napfXK5bF8bEdrZ96Gt1OWj0Kwd/09KYtabPfitrSYH8= X-Received: by 2002:a02:a701:: with SMTP id k1-v6mr12606168jam.140.1531697465041; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 16:31:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:1183:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2018 16:31:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <20180716072622.198015fe.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> References: <20180714064429.36c6bc43.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> <201807151821.w6FILUXj094865@fire.js.berklix.net> <20180716072622.198015fe.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 17:31:04 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: jYBtTm9jT9nXml5j4bJx01jpNJ4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CoC does not help in benchmarks To: Erich Dollansky Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Core Team Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2018 23:31:06 -0000 On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 5:26 PM, Erich Dollansky < freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> wrote: > > Does anybody need more: > > Keep it civil. > Be tolerant. > Remember that you are in public and that your actions determine the > public perception of the project. Do not make it personal. Do not > take it personally. > Such overly-simply CoCs have proven unworkable in the past. They were OK in the 90's, but we live in a different internet world today. These are good guidelines and great advice, but make it hard to take action when necessary. I wish it were not so. Warner