From owner-freebsd-current Sun Oct 13 20:28:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A6F37B401 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cae57-176-131.sc.rr.com [66.57.176.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324EA43E97 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g9E3SpTe092351 for ; Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:28:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:28:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: current@freebsd.org Subject: X problems & 5.0... -RELEASE? Message-ID: <20021013231430.F92271-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The last tentative date for 5.0-RELEASE I have seen is "late November, early December"... This does seem odd since I haven't seen a DP2, but... Quite a few people seem to be having serious problems with XFree86 for 3-4 weeks, everything from sig 6's, the "bezier" crashes, to strange freezes that sometimes "correct" themselves. The bezier bug is somehow related to a problem with the Type1 module, and disabling it helps a little. I have rebuilt my kernel, world, QT, KDE, and X system with-mpentiumpro instead of pentium3. I have not yet seen any SIGABRT's, but I am getting unrecoverable crashes (console stuck) and the "freezes" that will pass after 5-10 minutes of nail-biting wait. During those freezes, I have logged in via the network and attempted to use ktrace and truss on the wildly out-of-control XFree86 process. truss dumps core (probably a thread issue?) and ktrace generates no output. I'm going to try to rebuild with debugging symbols to attach with GDB, which was successful but produced no meaningful output. The "temporary freeze" seems to always occurr in the Konqueror location bar when it attempts to complete a URL as I key it in, but the runaway process is XFree86. I know there is some work being done on the recent signal changes to fix some things, but are we sure this is the problem? I would hate to see release schedules pushed back because these problems are lost in the noise, and I can't see a release being made that has a known unstable X. Thanks WNM -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message