From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 10 12:34:53 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CADD16A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:34:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cs1.cs.huji.ac.il (cs1.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C23A43D45 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:34:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32] ident=danny) by cs1.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1BjH42-000NRB-QI; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:34:46 +0300 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.6.3 04/04/2003 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Willem Jan Withagen" In-Reply-To: Message from "Willem Jan Withagen" <02a601c46674$fc4e0eb0$471b3dd4@digiware.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:34:46 +0300 From: Danny Braniss Message-Id: <20040710123453.0C23A43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ethercons updated for -CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:34:53 -0000 > > > On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:40, Danny Braniss wrote: > > > > The upshot off all this is, if the SOL works, then we can kiss KVM away, > > > > and as Robert said, just power and ethernet and you are set. > > > > > > You could probably use fwcons (I've only used it a little to test) but I > think > > > once it's enabled the target doesn't have to be cooperative for it to work > > > (although then you need to run firewire to your boxes as well as ethernet) > > > > > > > serial/firewire are ok for one computer, but when you have several, then > > this does not scale (imaging a cabinet with 30 1U boxes :-). > > > > appart from that, ethernet (once you overcome some basic security issues) > > is great to get the console. > > If you can afford a rack with 30 1U servers you could also spend money on KVM > technology over IP... you are still left with allot of cables (keyboard+mouse+vga) > They range from fairly basic, just keyboard and VGA > as far as Hires screen, mouse, keyboard and reset. seen it, tested it, expensive and the software does not run under FreeBSD > > I think I saw some on a trade show as low as 150 Euro, > ethernet in/out so you don't need many extra ports, just loop all KVM together. > Problem is I lost the bag with all the leaflets..... :( shame on you :-) the fact is that there is hardware on these server class motherboards that do/should do this SOL. btw, the Intel/IBM BladeServers can give you the console via VNC, but that's no fun - and very slow. danny