From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Sep 14 12:59:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE32337B410 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 82102 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2001 19:59:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Sep 2001 19:59:07 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 12:59:00 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Stephen Hurd Subject: RE: Helping victims of terror Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 14-Sep-01 Stephen Hurd wrote: >> >I think that the number is higher, but we can take your 10,000 >> >number, and put it in perspective: >> >> I can put it in perspective very well. I live in a town with a >> total population of 26,000. That's less than the number of people >> who were present in the WTC when the planes hit. > > I still don't agree with it... and if it's war they want, I say let's give it > to them... but I'd like to think that we can give it ONLY to them... or at > least do our darndest to try. Boy, I had promised myself to categorically ignore all discussions on this, but here's my viewpoint at least: I think that what they want is war, they want to die a martyr's death and stir up more anti-US sentiment. Aside from any governments involved, if an indivudal such as Bin Laden is involved, I think the best thing to be done is to not kill him, but bring him to a war-cries trial where he is condemned by the entire world for his actions so that he ends up not being a martyr but a criminal. In that instance he would still need punishment. If indeed he is responsible, I don't think he will stop. It's kind of like a child who will keep pushing against the parents to find out where the limit is that they get punished to see how much they can get away with. If you follow the escalations of USS Cole -> Embassy bombings -> WTC you can see a similar type of progression. That's my $.02 anyways. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message