From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 30 13:11:14 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555B637B401; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48C343F3F; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6UKB9CE072295; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:11:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6UKB9iG072294; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:11:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:11:09 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: ticso@cicely.de Message-ID: <20030730201109.GA72260@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> <20030730154052.GA55744@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030730155414.GA99616@sunbay.com> <20030730185412.GA71527@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730190730.GP42805@cicely12.cicely.de> <20030730191738.GC71737@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730194829.GQ42805@cicely12.cicely.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org cc: alpha@freebsd.org cc: Scott Long cc: Ruslan Ermilov cc: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 20:11:14 -0000 On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:48:30PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:17:38PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:07:31PM +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 08:54:12PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:54:14PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > > miniboot.iso is still much more useful, as it allows one to install > > > > > > > > I like it better too. But some people argue that not having to write > > > > the ISO on CDR is a good thing(TM). > > > > > > The dd the ISO to HDD. > > > > Where do you start the dd from then? (I agree, the non-ISO fs image > > suffers from the same problem). > > If you want do download something to bootstrap you need a machine with > network service and the capability to write data to a bootable media. > And we still have a large selection of possible media: CD, CDR, HDD, > MO, ZIP, Ethernet, ... > If you can't - then you have to buy a bootable media - usually a CD. > I see no alternative to the problem and it's nothing new. > Maybe David knows one - I failed to understand his last argument. > Possibly I have to take one of my sun3 and install SunOS to understand. Well, I have done something like this once by pulling a StorageWorks SBB disk from a machine where I dd-ed an OS ontop of it and then put that disk in another machine to boot it. So it can be done. -- | / o / /_ _ wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte