From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 6 19:59:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E6816A47D for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:59:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F5313C458 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jfvogel@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so1035736mue for ; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:59:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9iTPZFcRd5M/yJm+EZX0XbUJ5Qu4i5y/UUV6x29d4+A=; b=EeOtqmupSW//c1Sq/QonGmgMez7j1piEzUqpIeMQXCsSK/6nmpy5dkZZj+Y6FMM163GAMDN5A0XrjwqOq8WpeXZrgVW2ZumM6nBMye9guHTtU9XIJPcTl+MOprVOoQa+w+5ztb/snfHMEGJBX2vL8lJEw96JvT4BP/oKMlMJkR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Pk9fPHpjwW7N3xvIAAyXV2XVJ5C5no/n4vdiOoYkqFExE/Vbd/wD/GeT/ZTl+TNcKQvE8M/YtWOxUrm1EG8s8ehVz5YTkuYlssxhzgRCKIyothCLEl/sadqCO6fHUqg740QjMAyIzaHgFSpJBgHlxX6Xki38wS0yH3wRA9wvJOI= Received: by 10.86.86.12 with SMTP id j12mr3600628fgb.1191700764633; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.100.19 with HTTP; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2a41acea0710061259n23c19747tea9f210d1ce709fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:59:24 -0700 From: "Jack Vogel" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=" In-Reply-To: <86odfcvx3x.fsf@ds4.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200710052249.l95Mn9Nb071852@repoman.freebsd.org> <20071005231538.GA24016@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2a41acea0710051705l217224b6vc705dc6139b94e3b@mail.gmail.com> <20071006004634.GA24962@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <47073AF5.1010109@samsco.org> <86d4vspk8j.fsf@ds4.des.no> <47079A5C.3090109@samsco.org> <86odfcvx3x.fsf@ds4.des.no> Cc: Jack F Vogel , cvs-src@freebsd.org, Scott Long , src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files kern.pre.mk src/sys/dev/em LICENSE e1000_80003es2lan.c e1000_80003es2lan.h e1000_82540.c e1000_82541.c e1000_82541.h e1000_82542.c e1000_82543.c e1000_82543.h e1000_82571.c e1000_82571.h e1000_82575.c ... X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:59:26 -0000 On 10/6/07, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > Scott Long writes: > > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav writes: > > > We used to have a principle that commit bits were granted to individu= als > > > on their individual merit, not simply because they represented a vend= or > > > and were paid to work on drivers for that vendor's hardware. > > Are you implying that Jack has no merit? That's an unfortunate > > assertion. What evidence do you have to support that? > > It is you who implied rather strongly that Jack is neither more nor less > than an Intel representative. You spoke of "lecturing a vendor" when > all Erik did was point out or own rules to a *committer*. > > > > We also used to have a principle that changes should be tested > > > before being committed, especially to -STABLE. > > I guess you missed that part where Jack said that the changes had > > undergone extensive testing. > > I guess you missed the part where his commit broke the tinderbox, > because he clearly did not test the DEVICE_POLLING case. > No one is perfect, and YUP, we don't test POLLING, so here I am on my weekend fixing it, I don't get paid for that, and I also don't get paid for all the advocation I do for this community to Intel management. Jack