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Date:      Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:59:24 -0700
From:      "Jack Vogel" <jfvogel@gmail.com>
To:        "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?=" <des@des.no>
Cc:        Jack F Vogel <jfv@freebsd.org>, cvs-src@freebsd.org, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files kern.pre.mk src/sys/dev/em LICENSE e1000_80003es2lan.c e1000_80003es2lan.h e1000_82540.c e1000_82541.c e1000_82541.h e1000_82542.c e1000_82543.c e1000_82543.h e1000_82571.c e1000_82571.h e1000_82575.c ...
Message-ID:  <2a41acea0710061259n23c19747tea9f210d1ce709fc@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <86odfcvx3x.fsf@ds4.des.no>
References:  <200710052249.l95Mn9Nb071852@repoman.freebsd.org> <20071005231538.GA24016@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <2a41acea0710051705l217224b6vc705dc6139b94e3b@mail.gmail.com> <20071006004634.GA24962@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <47073AF5.1010109@samsco.org> <86d4vspk8j.fsf@ds4.des.no> <47079A5C.3090109@samsco.org> <86odfcvx3x.fsf@ds4.des.no>

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On 10/6/07, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav <des@des.no> wrote:
> Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> writes:
> > Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav <des@des.no> writes:
> > > We used to have a principle that commit bits were granted to individu=
als
> > > on their individual merit, not simply because they represented a vend=
or
> > > and were paid to work on drivers for that vendor's hardware.
> > Are you implying that Jack has no merit?  That's an unfortunate
> > assertion.  What evidence do you have to support that?
>
> It is you who implied rather strongly that Jack is neither more nor less
> than an Intel representative.  You spoke of "lecturing a vendor" when
> all Erik did was point out or own rules to a *committer*.
>
> > > We also used to have a principle that changes should be tested
> > > before being committed, especially to -STABLE.
> > I guess you missed that part where Jack said that the changes had
> > undergone extensive testing.
>
> I guess you missed the part where his commit broke the tinderbox,
> because he clearly did not test the DEVICE_POLLING case.
>

No one is perfect, and YUP, we don't test POLLING, so here I am
on my weekend fixing it, I don't get paid for that, and I also don't
get paid for all the advocation I do for this community to Intel
management.

Jack



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