From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 14 02:45:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31284E93 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 02:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EFEA24E for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 02:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id gd6so5950826lab.3 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:45:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=09x5LRzxylWdgH+xNQB5s2MLET/VXAfamedwdWhbsSw=; b=Vm9NcSIW/jgAmruIIImmhKS+Q4ROAxfYuPKSKZIAsg4XvESQHBN/wywXPAeP6WwWX1 8FqSUdfX38q/XEFAn7TmxI/D/3vvEENQT22EDDDneunC3EgseK40juzvBC9hw9tT93L1 w6tHg46YQl14yVj9lT9rnZLgRGbNNqnRLzmBaRDzF2or+ZwPBUlYfdk3wx7oH22cvLqD 9AoWO/4VSFPvH0qhBdHCjcyY1/IBzEAeVAIPX4R5lTDYsarDsojWtU//GhuLI9arOIvS 4dBwsrtsFfaB7Cvw2Y3h8tEu6pmDDnBQRjmDoqWYUkERdTfMbmWmkqUw0n7m6JP1zK5E Scmw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.159.136 with SMTP id xc8mr1441001lbb.98.1421203523279; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:45:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: crodr001@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.129.3 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:45:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150114023330.GA80986@FreeBSD.org> References: <20150114023330.GA80986@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:45:23 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: t3Ny5Fs67Lil_Vd49J21uyOQOe0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: projects to better support FreeBSD sysadmins From: Craig Rodrigues To: Royce Williams Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Deb Goodkin X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 02:45:26 -0000 On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 02:14:24PM -0900, Royce Williams wrote: > But the overall project list needed to be rebalanced towards system > administration. I request that the Foundation consider this when > calling for proposals for the next round of funded projects. Royce, I agree with what you wrote, but I want to add to it. I would like there to be a focus on making FreeBSD more "devops-friendly" so that the current generation of devops engineers can pick it up and easily deploy it in large cluster and cloud environments. We need to move beyond the 1990's era view of Unix administration where we only have a few Unix servers administered by hand by a few sysadmins. Today's datacenter has hundreds or thousands of nodes. These nodes need to be installed, maintained, and upgraded. These nodes are more and more maintained by devops teams who use automation frameworks (Puppet, Chef, Ansible, Saltstack, CFEngine, etc.) to accomplish these tasks. devops teams will write C and shell script if they have to, but are very pragmatic about using newer scripting languages like Python, Ruby, etc. if it is necessary to get the job done. What is FreeBSD doing to be more devops friendly? How can we make FreeBSD friendlier to people who are trying to deploy hundreds and thousands of FreeBSD nodes, especially in datacenter and cloud environments? I would like to see the project and Foundation focus on these types of problems. -- Craig