From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 25 04:01:00 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6E31065670 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 04:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex-goncharov@comcast.net) Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B8F8FC14 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 04:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QTdt1h0071vXlb85ETnlWT; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 03:47:45 +0000 Received: from hanssachs.home ([24.61.85.144]) by omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QTnj1h00d36qgMk3dTnk5Y; Thu, 25 Aug 2011 03:47:44 +0000 Received: from algo by hanssachs.home with local (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1QwQus-000256-ME for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:47:42 -0400 From: Alex Goncharov To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <04EEADEE-380F-48A0-BBBF-1A1673228F90@cyberlifelabs.com> (message from Milo Hyson on Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:42:23 -0700) References: <705869186.20110819012421@serebryakov.spb.ru> <04EEADEE-380F-48A0-BBBF-1A1673228F90@cyberlifelabs.com> Message-Id: Sender: Alex Goncharov Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Subject: Re: FreeBSD problems and preliminary ways to solve X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Alex Goncharov List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 04:01:00 -0000 ,--- Milo Hyson (Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:42:23 -0700) ----* | On Aug 24, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Vadim Goncharov wrote: | >> walking all over the competition. Buzz is a critical part of selling ideas in | >> open source (for better or worse), and there's no reason we can't play in that | >> game a bit while maintaining our boring and staid personalities :-). | > | > Sure. And taking surveys into account, we could just simply summarize: | > FreeBSD needs marketing :-) | | That begs the question of to whom FreeBSD should be marketed. Home | users? Small-office admins? Datacenter admins? Embedded developers? Horror if a wrong decision is made here, and some critical user group is under-marketed: the ideas will no longer sell, the volunteers stop volunteering, and we, the freeloaders, stop freeloading. A company in Russia starts using the free (imagine, they won't pay for it!) Linux instead of FreeBSD: one more ports user is lost, oh my!... Let's unite and find a company that backs FreeBSD commercially: it'll surely make a good profit... doesn't matter if not, when the FreeBSD fate is at stake... we only have a year left... Gotta win that competition -- do something, quick, y'all!.. -- Alex -- alex-goncharov@comcast.net --