From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 1 10:07:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB2C37B401 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lifesupport.shutdown.com (dsl092-048-059.sfo2.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.48.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907B343F85 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from llewelly@lifesupport.shutdown.com) Received: (from llewelly@localhost) by lifesupport.shutdown.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id h71H2mt18732; Fri, 1 Aug 2003 10:02:48 -0700 (PDT) To: george donnelly References: From: LLeweLLyn Reese Date: 01 Aug 2003 10:02:46 -0700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cc: Benjamin Walkenhorst cc: FreeBSD Q's Subject: Re: emacs - gnu, x ...? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 17:07:29 -0000 george donnelly writes: > [Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote (krylon@gmx.net) on 7/31/03 6:44 PM] >=20 > > If you want a GUI, try GNU Emacs or XEmacs. I prefer GNU Emacs, but I s= uggest > > you try both (if you are looking for a GUI). > > If you don't want a GUI, and if you are not looking for Emacs' massive > > extensibility, there are several curses-based "lookalikes" of Emacs, th= at > > share Emacs' look and feel, but do not feature its lisp interpreter, an= d thus > > much of its extensibility; on the other hand, they tend be more... > > ressource-friendly than emacs. Among these smaller versions I know of z= ile > > (zile is lossy emacs) and =B5emacs (micro emacs), though I have tried n= either. >=20 > thanks for the feedback. gui is not important, i guess i'm just looking f= or > the neat features that everyone talks about - and with a minimum of resou= rce > usage as i would like to install it on a webserver as well so clients can > use it over ssh. What kind of bandwidth do your users have? e.g., right now I am using emacs over ssh to a friends box, where the limiting bandwidth is 128kbits/s (that's the upstream dsl on the remote end.), and I find it usable. However if your users will be comming in via modem, IMO, modern emacs is no longer usable over modem (though older emmacs were).