From owner-freebsd-advocacy Sat Apr 21 0:19: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from homer.softweyr.com (bsdconspiracy.net [208.187.122.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9EB37B43F for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:19:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=softweyr.com ident=0601de7f49edbbf84a2cf9b0aa3fc833) by homer.softweyr.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14qrXp-0000JA-00; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:11:01 -0600 Message-ID: <3AE13285.F790DC95@softweyr.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:11:01 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , David Johnson , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MacOS Themes, was RE: Windriver, Slackware and FreeBSD References: <20010418091652.A27000@lpt.ens.fr> <006e01c0c7dd$fd2c1b80$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> <20010418102655.E27000@lpt.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > Ted Mittelstaedt said on Apr 18, 2001 at 01:03:01: > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Rahul Siddharthan [mailto:rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in] > > > > > >Another bit of uneasy news was Apple's threatening a Mac theme editor, > > >http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=2773 > > >Note that this is quite different from threatening themes.org: this > > >editor was for creating themes for *MacOS itself*. > > > > > > > This is fallout from the Napster decision, I wouldn't worry about it, > > and indeed the entire Napster thing is just a rehash of the lawsuits > > over the copy protection software that took place back in the 80's. > > Whatever. I'm not worried about theme editors for MacOS, but about > corporate attitudes in general. > > Wind River's action about slackware is not very encouraging. In any > case, they don't have any kind of known commitment to free software, Maybe not known to YOU, but they certainly have a commitment to certain types of "free software", which is a useless term. In particular, they have been a commercial sponsor of GCC/GDB/binutils development for more than a decade now. > and (from what I've read about them) no particular motivation for > donating anything back to FreeBSD. As such, I'm happy if they hire They have exactly the same reason Whistle, Yahoo, and others have: enlightened self-interest. To them now, a BSD/OS or FreeBSD "design win" *IS* a WindRiver design win, and folding code into FreeBSD means they have somebody other than paid employees to help them test, debug, and maintain it. > individual FreeBSD people to help them with their embedded system > work, but I am not happy if the FreeBSD OS itself becomes closely > associated with such a company -- any more than I would be if > Transmeta tried to associate itself with linux (which they don't). They don't? What rock are you living under? You apparently haven't been shopping for Transmeta devices lately. > People in the linux world complain about the dominance of Red Hat and > the popular "RH=linux" misconception, but at least RH's commitment to > free software has never been in doubt. It hasn't? What rock are you living under? I guess you missed the entire "Linux Standards Base" debate, huh? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message