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Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin Makefile src/lib Makefile src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist src Makefile.inc1 src/usr.bin/vi Makefile src/usr.bin/tclsh Makefile src/lib/libtcl Makefile 
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Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 02:37:14 -0700
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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
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> I'm not bitching about Tcl, I'm bitching about the necessity of
> including it in the base system. Tcl is relatively big (comparing

Then come up with a better way of having something in the "base"
system like the new installer (which is TCL based) and the new package
system (which is TCL based) somehow get the bits they need during a
world build, assuming that the user may or may not have the ports
collection on their machine (which is a reasonable assumption).

I'm more than a little tired of the armchair generals jumping up and
down about stuff like this only to go completely silent when the
subject comes up of what to do instead.  Either provide an alternative
mechansim, and I'm talking deeds-not-words material here, or accept
what's done instead with good grace and the wisdom to keep your mouth
shut about something you're not personally willing to change.

- Jordan