From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 21 12:54:46 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EB4106566B; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [IPv6:2a01:348:0:15:5d59:5c40:0:1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8158FC14; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFC7E83C0; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:54:44 +0100 (BST) Received: from unknown (host86-189-15-86.range86-189.btcentralplus.com [86.189.15.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:54:43 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:54:42 +0100 From: Bruce Cran To: Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-ID: <20101021135442.000054c9@unknown> In-Reply-To: <86zku77mj6.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <201009161742.24228.tijl@coosemans.org> <201009161619.o8GGJAmv035378@lurza.secnetix.de> <20101018155944.GA12425@freebsd.org> <868w1r92rf.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20101021122110.GA65490@freebsd.org> <86zku77mj6.fsf@ds4.des.no> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Alexander Best , mav@freebsd.org, Tijl Coosemans , Oliver Fromme , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Summary: Re: Spin down HDD after disk sync or before power off X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:54:46 -0000 On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:33:49 +0200 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > The problem with setting a short idle timeout is that, on a typical > laptop or desktop system, you end up spinning the disk down and back > up several hundred times a day, which increases power consumption, I/O > latency and wear. Do we think our users are silly enough to set a short timeout of just a few minutes? I'd think most would use a setting of 20-30 minutes at a minimum. I never did understand why there were so many warnings; after all, some laptops even come with a default APM scheme in their HDDs that powers the disk down after 7 seconds! --=20 Bruce Cran