From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 1 12:33:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A882116A41F for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:33:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fjoe@neo.samodelkin.net) Received: from neo.samodelkin.net (samodelkin.net [195.62.0.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62E443D49 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:33:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from fjoe@neo.samodelkin.net) Received: by neo.samodelkin.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 843B517054; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:33:21 +0600 (NOVT) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:33:21 +0600 From: Max Khon To: Marc Olzheim Message-ID: <20051101123321.GA39888@samodelkin.net> References: <436116D3.908@samsco.org> <20051031151809.GA83253@stack.nl> <20051101004042.GA28233@samodelkin.net> <20051101112900.GA4903@stack.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051101112900.GA4903@stack.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! 6.0-RELEASE coming X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:33:24 -0000 Hi! On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 12:29:00PM +0100, Marc Olzheim wrote: > > Linking against -lthr (or even -lc_r!) instead of -lpthread solves gdb > > "The program no longer exists." problem for me on RELENG_6. > > Well, yes, but that's not the same. While running on M:N KSE, all sorts > of locking needs to be correct, which with non M:N threading you can get > away with some (intentional or not) sloppiness. So debugging a fully > threaded program with a non M:N threadlib is not always useful. I do not think that maintaining M:N thread lib is feasible, given the lack of resources. Solaris has already moved from M:N to 1:1. Linux (NPTL) is 1:1 as well. /fjoe